TUESDAY PRAYER: HESED-TIKKUN CHATZOT תקון חצות – LESSON WITH RAV MICHAEL LAITMAN
READING: between after midnight and sunrise of Tuesday.
Lesson on the topic of “From Lo Lishma [not for Her sake], we come to Lishma [for Her sake]”
Morning Lesson May 14, 2023
Transcription is made from simultaneous translation, which leaves a possibility for differences in the audio.
Part 1:
From Lo Lishma [not for her sake], we come to Lishma [for her sake] – Selected Excerpts from the sources. #10
1. Rav’s Introduction: This topic remains the same topic from here until the end of correction; to grow as close as possible to Lishma, to enter Lishma and to come to practise it, exercise it in all of the will to receive both of individuals and the collective, the whole collective together. By this we’ll achieve equivalence of form with the Creator in everything that is revealed to us, this is basically the process. It is not so complicated or complex but still it contains a great many points because all of them come and are built on our will to receive. This is why we keep entering new feelings, new understandings and this is why it constantly on the one hand stops us, changes us and on the other hand it builds us every time more and more anew, more and more. By this we fashion, design our will to receive so it turns from in order to receive to in order to bestow and to grow. Meaning to connect itself, more and more will to receive in the right way in order to bestow. By this we will see how much we are moving closer to the Creator, building the Creator within us. As it is written come and see, this is the meaning of Bo-reh, come and see. In this way from day to day we try more and more to see these states that awaken and are born in us joined together, all the discernments, insights and this is how we advance.
Reading 10. Twice (03:40)
2. R. (07:22) In other words the purpose remains the same purpose and our work should progress according to our forward movement. And as we receive the direction and the goal we are constantly in this advancement on the path on our ascents and this is our work each time. We discover Lishma, Lishma in a broader way, a greater way, more advanced and this is how we advance. We replace our nature for the nature of the Creator, the distance between us grows shorter, becomes connection and we understand better and better what the Creator means by creating us specifically in this way, as we are.
3. S. (08:46) What is the connection between reception of the Torah and receiving Lishma?
R. The Torah is a means for achieving adhesion and the Torah is also the goal to which we come through actions to the adhesion that we are trying to carry out one at a time. So there are differences in power, in understanding, in the intellect, in the group effort and in the individual efforts. This is how we advance.
S. What is Torah Lishma?
R. Torah Lisha, Lishma means the for the sake of the Torah. I would put it this way, the fact that I have now my mind, my heart, my feelings and I am in them and I decide and carry out all kinds of actions in them, this is called me. When I gradually come to the form of the Creator which is revealed in oppositeness to me and I try to be like Him, these are my corrections. And then what I do when I become similar to Him? When I do this I shift into in order to bestow on the one hand; on the other hand according to this I become similar to the Creator. So all of my actions, thoughts, calculations become like those of the Creator. And why do I do this? In order to become similar to Him. And why do I want to be similar to Him? In order to bring Him contentment. And this is called Torah Lishma, Lishma. In other words the actions and intentions and all the results of what I’m trying to do, all of it will be only in order to become similar to the Creator which is called adhesion.
4. S. (12:12) In both of these states, Lishma and Lo Lishma on the one hand the Kabbalists write that in the state of Lo Lishma we as if cause the sorrow of divinity. Meaning the created beings are not doing what they are supposed to do. On the other hand there’s the state of bringing contentment. So can you explain what is the sorrow of the Shechina and bringing contentment to the Creator, how do these two states work?
R. The Shechina is the collection of desires and the intentions of the created beings. As much as they connect between them and are directed toward the Creator it is felt in the Creator as the relation of the created beings to Him. This is how it’s described in the Torah, this is how the Creator explains it, this is what He feels. In other words the state of the created beings when they are either disconnected from each other, far from one another, opposite from one another or vice versa; when they are closer, when they are moving closer, connecting together with a desire to connect with Him, it is felt in the Creator as a state of either remoteness or nearness and this influences Him and this is what He’s telling us.
S. That influences the Creator?
R. Yes it is influencing the Creator, He’s happy, He’s sad, He gets angry, the Creator speaks with our words.
S. But we are the emotional vessels meaning the emotion is ours.
R. But it’s still written that the Creator gets angry, the one who dwells in heaven will laugh, He is sad, He is excited as if He is dependent on the actions of the lower ones which are built in this way, arranged by Him in this way. And nevertheless He is dependent on them.
5. S. (15:21) What does it mean in the next year if there’s no time or space in spiritually?
R. We’re speaking from the perspective of the creative beings. Soon we are approaching the day of the giving of the Torah, the holiday that’s a special day which symbolizes some connection between the group and the Creator. Therefore we want toward that day to see and feel ourselves as being in some advancement toward adhesion with the Creator which is the final goal.
6. S. (16:17) Is it correct for a person to expect the reception of Lishma in a certain time of the year as he advances in the work?
R. There are all kinds. The thing is our calendar is not really related to the spiritual states that humanity or the world or we are going through and that change us. Nevertheless we have nothing else to hold onto so we accept what the sages also determined that nevertheless we have to attach ourselves to the calendar.
7. S. (17:12) How does a person know when he was awarded with the reception of the Torah? Is that the reception of Lishma?
R. The reception of the Torah is indeed a special day when a group of people who wanted to connect went through many preparations and were willing to be in ‘we will do and we will hear.’ Therefore they came to a state where they did what they had to do and they came to hearing, to the sense of hearing opening up to them the force of Bina, the force of the soul, Neshama. And then they rose to a desire to bestow in order to bestow and this is how they advanced.
8. S. (18:26) What’s the difference between connection of Lo Lishma and just ordinary psychological connection?
R. No it has nothing to do with psychology. Psychology is how we can play with what we have, all kinds of attributes, feelings, emotions but in the wisdom of Kabbalah it’s unrelated. There it talks about the will to receive that we elevate to the level of in order to bestow and psychology doesn’t elevate it to the level of in order to bestow. That’s why there is no connection between these two methods.
9. S. (19:14) In the part we read Baal HaSulam mentions that when a person receives the complete Lishma he has nothing more to do in this world. Can you explain what that means?
R. It means that in the relation towards the still, vegetative, animate and speaking which is called this world, he already realized himself the way he realizes himself. So he rises to a degree above it and continues. Then begins the spiritual development.
10. S. (19:57) Is the reception of the Torah something that happens once or it’s a continuous thing?
R. The reception of Torah is the reception of the reforming light which comes to the point in the heart in a person and influences him until it brings him to the completion to the completeness of his correction; until he prepares his vessel to receive all the light of Ein Sof that has been prepared for this vessel.
11. S. (20:47) Did the Creator make us in a way that we can ask for change consciously?
R. Yes, along the we can be in states when we consciously ask for the following steps, for special qualities, yes.
12. S. (21:16) I heard ‘we shall do and we shall hear.’ They did that they had to in action and then they were rewarded with hearing. What did they hear?
R. Hearing means that they are receiving the qualities of bestowal, qualities of Bina. It’s a spiritual degree already that we have to rise to, every time we rise from Malchut to Bina.
S. And if we rise then what do we hear?
R. We hear new conditions, what the lord your God tells you.
13. S. (22:22) What is the time that is ready for the reception of the Torah in the ten?
R. When it’s connected. The more it’s connected with as many shatterings before it and on top of them it makes efforts to connect this is called the ten being ready for corrections and for fillings.
S. We always work on connection every moment in the ten so he says here there’s a special time for the awakening from below.
R. There’s a special time that depends on the lower ones when they awaken and take on some change and then they can perform some action to rise above the state they’re in and there is a time that depends not on the lower ones but you could say on all the people in the world, a general time, time according to the calendar.
S. Can we ask for that time, expect it, bring it closer? What’s our role in this axis called time?
R. There is this thing called Israel and they promote or advance, accelerating or hasten time. It is when we always want to be more and more in the advanced time, in the advanced state. This is called yearning for corrections.
S. But again in the ten there is always yearning and longing, that’s the life of the ten.
R. Perhaps..it should be this way, yes.
S. So time is not then time in our world it’s a certain state we need to reach.
R. Time is states, yes.
S. So how to come to a specific time that we all want this certain time?
R. First we have to bring ourselves to connection and then from connection to try to make changes that will be called times, special states that the society will experience the ten one at a time, consecutively.
S. Is there some peak that’s called the time or the reception of Torah?
R. We want to come to it, we want to come to it. Meaning we choose in order of states that we want to go through these states in order to advance us to a state of reception of the Torah. Meaning to be worthy of receiving the reforming light and the lights of the Torah.
S. He writes here that from above everything is prepared for us it all depends on wanting that specific thing together from below.
R. Yes, so what are you asking?
S. What’s the tiebreaker here what leads to coming to that state from below?
R. From above there is always the giving of the Torah, we don’t have an awakening from below. More than the calf wants to suckle the cow wants to nurse.
S. And also from below there is always work.
R. We work but I guess it’s not enough in order to receive the Torah. All those lights that come to us we have to collect them and connect them and absorb them and connect through them.
S. So what turns that to be sufficient, to be precise, exactly precise?
R. It is all according to the connection between us. We can’t perform any actions on the light, only within our vessel.
14. S. (27:43) You said that the more we advance towards Lishma we change in our qualities and better understand the Creator. What does that mean?
R. It means we understand better that the purpose of creation is to do good to His creations which comes on top of our corrections. To the extent that we are more adapted to the Creator through the connection between us we understand Him better and better more and more until we understand Him and feel Him, until we are adhered to Him.
S. The understanding of what the Creator wants from us is through the ten, through the friends?
R. Only. The the Creator created us this way. This is why we cannot approach Him without re- dissolving in the ten.
15. S. (29:02) This concept of Matan Torah is basically the light that corrects? So it comes to correct the heart only if there is a deficiency in the heart?
R. Yes.
S. So my question is about this function of time. Let’s say a person comes morning after morning for a long time months and years of sitting here every day. This function of time does it have some role in coming to the deficiency or it’s not related to time?
R. Astronomical time?
S. That’s right, days, weeks, months, years sitting in the lesson, hoping that we’ll come to it at some point.
R. It is written what the mind doesn’t do time does. So there is influence from the mind and there is influence from time but it’s according to the individual person and his destiny or to the root of his soul.
S. How can the mind help here to hasten time?
R. Learn what Kabbalists recommend and as quickly as possible retire, remove yourself from the will to receive through everything that the Kabbalists recommend for the person.
16. S. (30:55) Baal HaSulam writes here that when one receives the aspect of complete Lishma he has nothing more to do in this world. In what word does he have anything to do?
R. In the upper world.
S. One is born with self-love and another is born with love of others.
R. There is no such thing. No one is born in love of others.
S. That’s what you said.
R. What do you know about me?
S. You are born in the role of loving others.
R. Who told you this? This is why I don’t like letting you to ask because you begin to ask nonsense, excuse me. No one is born on a spiritual degree. Everybody can reach a spiritual degree, the spiritual degree that is suitable for him but it’s not like any one is born like that. Even Moses was born just like any other baby.
17. S. (32:31) Regarding ‘we shall do and we shall hear’ it’s felt that every friend in the ten is trying to make actions in the conditions he has. What does it mean that the ten is doing an action together, when is it considered that the ten is making an action?
R. When we connect. When they connect, sit together and discuss some situation, come to a decision, write it down in the ten’s diary or log and carry it out.
S. The very action that you said right now, sitting together it’s literally this kind of action?
R. Yes, just as you heard it.
S. And the feeling?
R. Accordingly in the feeling.
S. What kind of feeling do we need to achieve that will be considered that the ten will be doing it together?
R. Deciding through the mouth and then being meticulous in carrying it out, in practise.
Reading 11. Twice (34:02)
18. S. (37:20) What does it mean that all the actions one does will only be focused on this point which is fear of heaven?
R. Do you understand what is fear of heaven?
S. No, what is it and what is all the actions will be for that?
R. Why is the main purpose to reach fear of heaven? It’s also not clear from this? A person whose concern and desire is to be rewarded with the internality of the Torah does not see that he has the Lishma, Lishma which is the fear of heaven. About this it says can he come in, in what way? One who learns Torah Lishma meaning for the Torah to bring him to Lishma and is rewarded with fear of heaven is rewarded with the revelation of the secrets of the Torah. But before he has been rewarded with Lishma it is not revealed to him. It follows that here his work to be rewarded with the internality is in vain, no results from the efforts. Hence we must pay attention mainly to the Lishma, meaning to fear of heaven and that everything one does will focus only on this point, on the fear of Heaven since this matter is concealed and one must reveal it. Is what’s written here is it clear?
S. What is fear of heaven?
R. Fear of heaven, it is that I have to come to, Lishma, Lishma. Look at the last paragraph. This is why we have to focus mainly on the Lishma meaning on the fear of heaven.
19. S. (40:23) I feel that I am walking in a box looking for the opening because I don’t know what is Lishma, I don’t know what is fear of heaven. This whole process which is the main thing I have no clue about it. There is a feeling of a desire to advance, to search for something to happen but how to feel that I am not wasting my life away?
R. Maybe in the same place.
S. Really? Maybe some of them are out of the box already? How can I see that?
R. Let’s say that there are some that have come out of the box. You can turn it to them and ask them to help you come out, to give you a hand and pull you out.
S. How can I detect that?
R. Perhaps you can’t detect it but you can ask, you can cry out and then see if there’s someone who is out there and wants to pull you out.
20. S. (42:01) Is it possible to say that fear of heaven resembles plucking a string like it says about King David’s harp?
R. I don’t know what is David’s violin, I don’t know what is the north wind, I don’t know these things so why are you taking things I don’t know and bringing to me in order to explain something? I don’t understand this either.
S. We have to tune the instrument quickly.
R. Yes?
S. There is an analogy to the friends in the ten meaning that the relation to them enables to feel, not sure about the word but to feel all the friends.
R. Okay, you can put it this way.
21. S. (43:25) Continuing a question I need to feel or imagine my friends already in Lishma?
R. Yes.
S. Then how does that become a force that attracts me, that pulls me?
R. What are the friends for? In order for you to depict them as being on a higher level and you will want to be together with them.
S. And that’s imaginary or real?
R. I don’t know but I’m told that if you depict it in this way you’ll begin to rise, to ascend.
S. How can I imagine it when I hear them asking questions as if they’re not there yet?
R. This I don’t know, it always seems to me this way, that everyone is inferior to me.
S. And that’s basically what prevents me from advancing if I see that?
R. According to what you read if you understand what’s written.
22. S. (44:49) Does it depend on the friends or the Creator?
R. It depends on everything, on how a person relates to the friends, to the Creator and to himself.
S. Because you said to ask the friends to take you out.
R. Yes?
S. So I’m asking if it only depends on them or them and the Creator?
R. No, in the end it depends on the person. It depends on the individual to the extent that one tries in the most correct way to depict these things.
23. S. (45:53) Is it forbidden to cry in the lesson?
R. Crying is always permitted.
24. S. (46:34) You said to imagine the friends are in Lishma and then what would it mean ask the Creator for them?
R. What can I ask the Creator if my friends are at the top of the ladder of all the rungs, what do I ask for them? I don’t know, I can ask that I would be able to be next to them and to serve them and that will already seem to me like a high degree.
S. You said it always seems to me like the friends are smaller than me but is there another recommendation for how to work with it?
R. When the friends seem smaller than I, I have to constantly depict the right things, the opposite things, that I am inferior to them and the more the better. But not so low that I can’t do anything and my hands just drop, that’s it. At the same time I should not lose my strength, my power to work and this is how I advance.
25. S. (48:53) Is the level of attainment of the friends according to how I imagine the friends being in attainment?
R. Your attainment of the friends is according to your attainment of the friends, period.
S. In other words if I imaging them as already out of the box then they are out of the box?
R. No, by this you don’t determine their state, that they exist in the state that you see. It’s not some hocus-pocus that’s happening here, what you are seeing could be completely incorrect.
S. So how can you come to a state where you ask for help for the friends? It’s only because you make yourself smaller than they are?
R. Of course you’re smaller, yes.
26. S. (50:15) The state of Lishma, does it depend on the level, does it shine on all the individual states from end to end?
R. Yes.
27. S. (50:36) What is fear of heaven in this quality of Lishma?
R. Fear of heaven means that I am in fear of whether I’ll be able to relate correctly to the Creator, to the created beings and to the entire process that I go through; and from that build my attitude to the Creator so that I can each time get closer to Him and resemble Him.
S. Is it a feeling of some connection with the Creator?
R. It’s nevertheless some closeness to the Creator.
28. S. (51:42) Do we receive the Lishma as a covenant of love and obligation toward the Creator or does the transition come when fear of heaven is built in us?
R. Lishma includes fear of heaven in it. Lishma is not a transition, it’s already a state of the attitude you have to yourself, to the world and to the Creator where you see all those things in a spiritual form to some extent and you want to continue that way.
S. Is it a covenant we must keep with effort and labor or is it a step we take or does it just become built in us?
R. Lishma means spiritual degrees by which we rise and elevate ourselves each time in a way that’s more towards the Creator, to bestow to the Creator.
29. S. (53:32) At person is the one waking up the Torah and the Creator reveals Himself within the ten, what is the balance the right balance between the to and how do we awaken the awakening from below?
R. By wanting to bestow to each other, simple answer; the more that Creator wants to bestow to the created being and vice versa, by that they detect and established and build the place of connection between them, that’s all. And there in that place they connect and they understand and feel each other, and this place that they already have, the centre of the connection, they begin to raise that higher and higher .
30. S. (55:02) Is fear of Heaven somehow relating to annulment, the fear of not being able to serve the Creator unconditionally?
R. Fear of Heaven was to serve us from here until the final Correction and other than that we do not need anything else.
31. S. (59:58) Is there a connection and how does the force of faith in the person develop fear of Heaven toward the Creator?
R. To the extent of the quality of bestowal a person discovers the Creator as the Giver and He is the one who is commanding and shaping and fulfilling everything, and this is only to the extent the power of faith the person can acquire and only to that extends he can open his connection to the
32. S. (57:19) It is written in the text that “that is why there is an awakening from below so the lower ones can act like the upper ones”, what does it mean that the lower can perform an action like the higher ones?
R. I do not know, what he’s talking about.
S. Yes, about the previous excerpt about the reception of the Torah. In excerpt number ten, he says this: “because then it is the awakening of the time when the light of the giving of the Torah is revealed in the lower ones, this is why there is always an awakening from above so the lower ones can act as they did then, at that time,” so the question is what does it mean that the lower ones can do as they did then?
R. That they were in adhesion and therefore rewarded with the light of ‘the giving of the Torah’, Matan Torah.
33. S. (59:13) The second article we just read left an impression that the biggest spiritual that we have to do in the ten is to see the ten in a corrected state. Does this mean that if I do not see my own corrected state it is my own disconnection with the ten that I am actually seeing?
R. Look, certainly you’re seeing everything through your own vessels and to the extent that you are not corrected you see the ten as not corrected and not connected, that’s how it works.
S. So what should be there prayer when you recognise it is you that really needs the help here because they are already connected?
R. Whatever you feel, if you feel they are connected and you are not and you want to connect to them, then your prayer is according; you cannot pray for you something that you do not feel is important, only something important. You can pray for so you have to scrutinise what is most important, and that needs to be in your mind and heart, and this is how you turn to the Creator through the ten.
34. S. (01:01:43) What does it mean that when we come to Lishma we have nothing more to do in this world, shouldn’t we be in complete bestowal and work actually more?
R.This world is a world of reception, if we rise from the world of reception to the world of bestowal then that’s it, we are already, and there we correct wherever we possibly can, that is what it is about, rising from the world of reception to the world of bestowal.
35. S. (01:02:33) It is written that if a person has not been rewarded with the Torah he hope helps that in the future he will be rewarded, next year, so maybe ‘year’ comes from the word ‘change’, right, but then it means we have to perform certain quantity of inner corrections from Lo Lishma to Lishma, etc. Where is it in the ten, how do we go through together in the ten?
R. In the ten, it’s actually the realization, in the ten it’s actually realized where we each time want to further and further connect between us and discover that force of connection between us.
36. S. (01:03:38) Can you elaborate on the inner part of Torah?
R. It is not our topic, it’s not, there’s nothing there that we need right now.
37. S. (01:03:58) Why do we say the fear of Heaven and the fear of the Creator, what is the difference?
R. There’s the difference just like in our world there’s a different: what am I afraid of, the entire world or someone in particular, there’s the difference.
38. S. (01:04:43) In item number eleven, it says that when a person is still not rewarded with Lishma, it is revealed to him, it turns out that his work to be rewarded with internality in vain”, why is his work in vain if he’s working to be rewarded with internality?
R. I don’t know, we have to read what it says before, we have to read what it says there before.
39. S. (01:05:19) What does it mean that the Torah is both the means and the goal?
R. That by the Torah we can achieve corrections, and each and every correction and its revealed manner also appears in Torah.
S. In this world, if I run 100m I reach the finish line?
R. I don’t know any of the examples you’re giving, you’re running, not running, there is a means and there is the goal and the goal resides within the means, that’s it.
S. So in our world it’s two different terms, why do we say it’s the same thing, what does it mean?
R. We will advance and see.
40. S. (01:06:24) How can we be in the present state in the force of bestowal and overcoming fear of falling in the future?
R. To connect to the friends, that will give you more confidence and that is how you will overcome all the states that scare you.
S. Where should I focus my thoughts, my intentions so as not to fall, that is my fear every moment, seriously.
R. Through the friends to hold on to the Creator, this is correct and it’s a rule that applies to all times, meaning to all the states.
41. S. (01:07:45) You may have already answered but I’m going to ask, nevertheless, there is always fear in me that the Creator will kick me out of the path, is this correct, this fear, and what do I do with this fear?
R. Try to get closer to the Creator in adhesion with Him as much as possible and then you will begin to detect what exactly is this state.
42. S. (01:08:37) When our selfishness… Is it that our selfishness holds concept, awareness?
R. Correct.
Reading Excerpt #12 (01:09:24) “We must understand why one should seek advice”…
43. R. (01:10:56) Question to everyone what should be the deficiency of the person before he receives the help from above towards Lishma? Read again.
Reading Excerpt #12 (01:11:15) “We must understand why one should seek advice”…
44. R. (01:11:54) So Lishma is not something you obtained by the effort, it comes from above and falls into man’s hands.
Reader continues (01:12:05) “The answer is as our sages said, it is not for you”…
45. R. (01:13:03) Say the last sentence again.
Reading (01:13:07) “A Prayer is considered a deficiency and without a deficiency”…
46. S. (01:13:50) Lishma, is it a reward or a gift?
R. Probably a gift or a reward.
S. So Lishma, is it a gift or like a reward like a pay?
R. Was the difference?
S. You say here he receives it from above regardless of his efforts, because it’s from above it’s a gift, or is it because a person exerts and works and receives no free gift, we worked, so I’m asking is Lishma a payment or a gift?
R. Well what do you think if there is no clear opinion like that that dwells and everyone, what can you do?
S. Is it possible for a person to receive Lishma without working?
R. I haven’t ever heard that there is anything like that in nature, that someone receives anything without making some effort or some labor.
S. So it turns out that we’re working and some work that is called Lo Lishma with real result is actually not clear. I don’t know what the result is but in the end because we did this work the Creator will give us Lishma, is this the order?
R. Possibly, but still what you have done before is considered labor.
S. Yes, I have to make an effort, it’s clear to me that this effort itself shifted me to Lishma, but in the end I get a bonus, I get a gift that is called Lishma, but it’s related to the work I did, it’s not the work itself that gave me the bonus.
R. I don’t know, I think that our entire life is working like what you’re saying, that we’re not doing any work and just receiving bonuses.
S. So what are Kabbalists trying to say, that on one hand do the work regardless of the outcome, and on the other hand, without work there is no outcome and that’s clear; why are they trying to distinguish, I don’t understand and they constantly repeat?
R. What?
S. That Lishma is a gift from above?
R. Because probably we never worked in order to receive Lishma, but rather we did all kinds of things, and then in an alternative way we got a reward for it, called Lishma.
S. What does it mean that in an alternative way we receive Lishma?
R. That I didn’t work on it.
S. So what did I work on?
R. You can’t work on a thing that goes against you right?, meaning there is a condition, an agreement that I will get paid for the exertion here and here and here that’s it. This payment is called receiving Lishma, Lishma. Do I want it or not, how can I want it, did I ever have it, No. Did it give records in me? No, so, why should I want Lishma? They say it is all to bestow that you have no records on it. What’s left for you here? An empty space in your vessels what is left is an empty place so, how can you prepare yourself for Lishma?
S. Essentially what we are saying is that Lishma is something we don’t quite understand it’s not something that we need for the vessels of reception because it’s empty as you said but we still work together to try to reach it to arrive there and when we arrive there it’s going to be new vessels, I understand there’s something new, there’s something different that I can’t quite understand.
R. Meaning what you think is that if I reach Lishma already, then in them you’ll feel just like when you receive.
S. No, Kabbalists say it’s something else.
R. What? When you get a chance to bestow.
S. So like the Creator, to cleave to him.
R. So, you can do it now as well, go for it!
S. At the end of the day, our work let’s clarify, because when we start talking about Lishma, I don’t understand anything about it I have nothing to say, but in the work between what we need to do is care for one another as you said earlier in the lesson, I have to relate to the friends as if they are in Lishma and serve them; this at the end of the day?
R. That’s for sure.
S. It’s the path of the king if I do that?
R. No, but don’t close yourself only to that.
S. Rather what else?
R. That’s it’s not that you only do actions without any intention.
S. What does it mean there’s only intention there, how can I serve the friends, only in intention, otherwise how can I serve them? in the beginning the intention as time goes we see that the intention is incorrect, is for myself because I want to earn something and gradually like after the Passover we went through it very special, intention also starts to move?
R. Yes and what direction is it moving toward?
S. It moves towards the direction of me loving them, but this love I don’t know how to explain it.
R. I feel you.
47. S. (01:21:46) I wanted to ask how, how can you want Lishma, how can the will to receive come a situation or a state when he wants Lishma?
R. I may want Lishma because through my actions in the Ten and in our great group comes some light that transforms me transforms me, I don’t know why but still I agree more, I understand more, I feel more what giving means, that one can live in this gap called the world of giving, the relations of giving, that in giving one can both receive and bestow. Giving is a kind of bubble I go into it and there the rules are as such that I can in them also swim. Yes, the seal, and you can receive, you can bestow, you can live. Why are you smiling?
S. So directly, in a direct way I cannot have a desire for that?
R. No, strictly directly I can’t, I don’t have in my nature this desire of Lishma, I don’t even know what that is it’s two words one word.
S. Clear, so there is effort that leads to it through which a person receives Lishma?
R. There is exertion in the group in the study, in all kinds of things that a person wants to invest in and invest, that ultimately he starts more and more to be connected with these words that belong to bestowal, to the investment.
S. So what did you mean when you said the Lishma is not attained through effort, it comes, it arrives from above and drops into the lap of a person?
R. Lishma, as we read, is an awakening from above and it comes to a person when the Creator decides to give him that but not nonetheless it does comes as a result, as a result of the efforts.
S. So in the direct way you cannot attain it until the Creator decides to give it to you?
R. I can’t get it without the Creator passing this to me, right.
S. And how do you cause the Creator, how do you make the Creator give this Lishma to you?
R. Through all kinds of actions of my own when I agree. When I agree with all of his conditions in order to receive Lishma.
S. What does it mean to agree?
R. To accept. Even though each of this conditions goes against my own will to receive.
S. So what what does my agreement depend on? on the conditions that he sets before me?
R. The extent of my agreement depends on how much I expect for him to make the changes in me, will make the changes in me.
S. And how is it possible to recognize the conditions that I need to agree to?
R. I suddenly feel that I’m willing not to think about reception but rather only to live in bestowal that what I give this toll hand out to others for me that’s the reward, that’s the payment, the salary.
S. Clear, last question. To live in such a reality it is clear to me that it’s not something I can want in my will to receive and still it’s clear to me that I need a desire to be able to receive this thing; so how do you create the desire to something that is completely opposite to you? how do you create a desire to bestow if the nature wants anything other than that?
R. It comes after a long time through the light that reforms I have no other answer, but it’s not that I’m just saying it, that’s really the way it is. You yourself then feel that what you now think is the result of the influence of the light that that worked on you for some time..
48. S. (01:28:29) The Creator created the will to receive. Other than wanting to always reach the correct prayer and request is there anything else we need to do?, the sum of all the actions that we do to help and support?
R. What the Creator created we have to shape it differently, that this will to receive will work like the Creator in bestowal.
S. And I cannot change that of my own?
R. You cannot change it because besides the will to receive you have nothing but you have the connection with the Creator and nonetheless.
S. Through request and prayer?
R. Well suppose yes. So you can turn to the Creator through prayer and request.
S. So again I’m repeating the same question from before, how do I know that I am not wasting my life?
R. Fill your life with a prayer and request.
S. And what to do with the will to receive it is upset it looks for pride it has all sorts of conditions?
R. Get secluded, but in a way in a balanced way. It’s not that you just eat a loaf of bread and drink water. And that’s it.
49. S. (01:30:28) I wanted to ask you, there are a few conditions that a person needs to agree to in order for the Creator to give him Lishma? what conditions are we talking about here?
R. The conditions to receive Lishma are conditions when a person is willing to do everything he can, whatever the Creator demands of him expecting to receive this quality of Lishma. What does one want? only wanting to receive the quality of bestowal, that’s why we are among the friends ready to connect to them as much as is required of us only to have instead of that the quality of bestowal which is the quality of the Creator and to that extent we will feel that we are adhered to him; meaning our goal is not just to be bestowers but by the quality of bestowal to cling to the Creator which he is internally bestowal.
S. I will give an example. Each morning I come in the morning and I feel that I am in self-love and I sat with the friends and now I begin to connect I begin to study in the morning lesson and on the other hand I feel that I am still in the will to receive but the question is, is there such a thing that maybe this something is lacking in my effort that it’s not enough?
R. No, you just have to understand that without the will to receive we also we can’t advance, with all the measurements we make; as an engineer you can understand that without the counterforce and forcing in my favor, these two forces that I measure and I am between them, I cant feel myself, establish myself, measure myself, that is why we need both.
S. And I feel that Lishma is very difficult thing to arrive to this state because I feel that something internally needs to be changed in the person that he will need to come to a state that he has no other choice and he really wants it, and as you said that there are two forces one if I want something great and I am in that state and I can’t and I think that what is missing is the importance
R. That’s for sure, that’s the main thing, that’s called greatness sometimes sometimes important but everything will be okay.
50. S. (01:34:24) Baal HaSulam says that it is not up to you to finish the work and it’s not up to you to get away from it, so who finishes the work?
R. The Creator, he starts and he finishes, I’m the first and I’m the last.
S. If he begins why does he finish, why is it I am it is not up to a person to be free from it?
R. You should always think that I start the creation and each and every moment I finish the creation in each and every moment until we reach from the beginning to the final correction.
S. It is as if in this entire item what’s confusing is that Baal HaSulam disconnects between the work and the reward as if the effort the labor and the reward are’t in the same place as if they are parallel they’re not connected to one another?
R. Not connected with one another.
S. On the other hand they have to exist?
R. That’s true.
S. Meaning that a person has to labor he labored and he found you?
R. Yes.
S. And it has nothing directly related to the labor?
R. No.
S. But it’s necessary in order to..
R. In order for a person to measure himself through that.
S. So it is as if the entire purpose for this processes that nature becomes habit becomes the second nature?
R. Yes.
S. And what gives him the strength for that is the greatness and importance that he receives from the Ten?
R. Yes.
S. And at a certain stage will come or not come?
R. What, the reward?, the reward will come but the different one, which one?
S. The work?
R. That’s exactly right
51. S. (01:36:55) We’re saying that a person who is filled the measure a full measure it comes to Lishma. What is the main point, is there a main point that we as a society need to put an emphasis on in order to fill this cup of measure or is it a combination of all sorts of things and the help from above?
R. These are scrutinies, it’s a result of the scrutinies and nothing else.
S. There is nothing main specific that you can point to and say that this is the fuel that this is how we are going to convince the Creator?
R. My fuel is from the absolute zero, when I reach it more and more and more.
52. S. (01:38:08) Why is this spiritual work so unclear?
R. It is an order for us to not be able to hang on to it in a selfish way but rather we do grab, grasp it in egoistic way but it’s not so clear and understood, even in your question it’s clear.
S. Why is the spiritual work, why does the Creator put it as a condition that it has to be unclear unattainable and reachable?
R. He doesn’t do that on purpose he doesn’t intentionally do it, it’s just that in our vessels you can’t have it in a different way, each one wants to discover in his hands like this to be in the palm of my hand that what I obtained, what I’m trying to attain, what I will have everyone wants to be a fortune teller for himself. So you’re told it’s possible? it’s possible, it’s only that you are connected to all the other people to the world so connect to them, and scrutinize their future and then you will have your future point.
S. But there as well becomes unclear it’s not just altruism, not just care for others, it’s much more complicated?
R. No, the moment you enter this quality of giving to everyone, because everyone is you so it all becomes clear to you. It’s only that you have to open everything, you have to let go of everything.
S. There is also a question that concerns me in the past few days, a sensation that we are reading the sources Baal HaSulam and Rabash and it is written I imagine a period of a village in Poland hundred years ago or Jerusalem at the beginning of the 1920s and it’s the different period and for us with all the confusion of our time of the internet and the phones is as if it isn’t connected to us
R. That’s actually related to us, it is related to us, they wrote it for us. You can’t manipulate it in any other way.
S. It seems that our generation has been given all of the confusion and distraction that we are in the completely different league in history.
R. That’s true.
S. So what can we do, it’s not fair?
R. The conditions.
S. But the conditions that doesn’t allow our generation, the Creator has arranged that for our generation it’s not; he gave a greater weight than the muscle can pick up?
R. That’s not true, it’s not true, I don’t agree with that, the Creator gives each and everyone in a very precise manner, in the right time, in the right way, what this person needs in order to advance in the easiest way for the next step on his way for the final correction. That’s how it is, so say thank you and keep on going. Whomever is left here with us on the path are people who are truly have all the help from above and all the conditions to reach the end of correction.
53. S. (01:43:01) When there is a sharpness now and the scrutiny energetic from the group and how do we continue with it after the lesson?
R. Don’t be afraid to lose it, don’t be afraid to lose it, whatever happens happens, I’m in his hands and I will go with it.
54. S. (01:43:29) I want to repeat the friend’s question. Once set it was very clear to focus on something you enter a room, you focus on writing, thought; I remember a time even though I’m not that old you were a child you enter the room and you were focused; today if you don’t respond to someone in the WhatsApp in a second he gets offended or you get fired or something there is no focus?
R. This is according to the corrections we have to go through.
S. Now we have to arrive to a deficiency Lishma, the most you need to focus on.
R. Yeah, and previously did they have a deficiency for it?
S. No, but at least there were conditions, again, I’m coming from the left right now but they were conditions where you could leave everything and focus on it.
R. And before that the conditions were even better when I had some ruins and some cow and some woman by the cow and a few kids by the woman and that’s it, so what did I know?
S. How to disconnect from all of the, is as if it became a necessity, all of these distractions that you can be connected to the reality through?
R. Reality changes according to our internal corrections, what we have to do that’s it, then you see this externality that appears cars and planes and all kinds of things well that appears and in all kinds of shapes only for us so that we threw that will be able to collect all these details to the shape of the final correction. Yes, so what?
S. So accepted these are the conditions?
R. No don’t even fight about it, not in favor or against, inside all that we will discover the connection between us.
55. S. (01:46:07) Specifically now that he described we can see over the years how the lessons that you conduct have changed as if it was adapted for the generation. Once if you open an archive and a lesson look 10-15 years ago, now it’s a completely different way of processing the information, the material, how can we learn from it from the internal work that the Creator changes the reality in front off us and create some best conditions and with the distractions and the cell phones, that a person’s attention is so short that in a few seconds then he needs something else? how to translate it to a modern inner work?
R. Be more connected in the group so they’ll be more fast in all the different changes and the internal changes between you, that’s how I’ll say it.
56. S. (01:47:23) In the reception of the Torah, when we received the Torah, at least according to the biblical story, then we entered Lishma? This is the point of the reception of the Torah when we enter Lishma?
R. Not all at once.
S. Not at once, so when yes?
R. After the reception of the Torah we divided into tens you read that in the Bible it says, so we organized ourselves according to the groups and we started working in the groups and then we started to discover the spiritual processes of ours that they’ve written about in the Torah.
57. S. (01:48:32) I want to continue the scrutiny that the friend started. Is despite the changes in the generation are there conditions to enter spirituality change or are they high like the laws of nature that cannot be changed?
R. Laws of nature that cannot be changed.
S. You set the rule and you cannot break it, so what does the generation do that he changes so much?
R. The generation always changes and it changes itself to adapt itself to the spiritual conditions that are eternal.
S. You see a situation or a state that you can enter spirituality without study, without work in with the material?
R. I think yes it’s possible. I think a time will come and people will be closer by their internal feeling, by their internal heart, they’ll also feel what’s happening in this world more in a way that there’s nothing to look for here. There’s nothing to look for, the reward it’s only to feel the spiritual connection between us and in it, in its center, the Creator. which includes the entire reality.
S. What you are describing now is a process that can take place in the masses if I understand correctly.
R. Yes it’s for everyone.
S. The ability to acquire the quality of bestowal, is it possible that the person acquires the quality of bestowal without working in the path of Baal HaSulam and Rabash, through that?
R. Only through the annulment of the will to receive.
S. How do you get to annul your will to receive if you don’t go through this formatting that’s done on you, that’s what I don’t understand.
R. This is how I’ll be, only that it’ll be more clear, more powerful, this is how it will get closer to one another, you will see, you’re still young. In 20, 30 years you will see how it will be.
S. In 20 or 30 years we can be sure that changes will occur but in our time can there be such a reality that such changes I know it sounds natural the way you describe it, naturally someday I want it.
R.Yes, yes, yes this is how it will be.
S. But now naturally I don’t want it.
R. You will want it there’s no problem, you will want.
58. S. (01:52:23) Standing in front of Mount Sinai, what the people of Israel were about to receive the Torah they heard a voice or something, I don’t know what, they got this feeling that inside that you either connect or you die here. So, they received the Torah and then the Creator said look for me in the Torah. Is this the correction that we have to look for the Creator, the adhesion with him in the Torah?
R. Yes.
S. And the connection what is that, when they say that in the connection the Creator is revealed, how it’s revealed?
R. Yes he reveals
S. Without the Torah?
R. What is revealed is that for us the Torah is revealed and in it the Creator.
S. So we have to have the Torah in our hands?
R. Certainly yes, of course that you learn how to love the friends and how to be connected to them and in that you change your qualities it is called that you are studying the Torah.
S. So Lishma comes only after you receive the Torah?
R. Yes.
59. S. (01:53:52) You told us many times that Rabash said that in the beginning of the 20th century they were many people in Israel that if you could tell that here you can reach spirituality, that leave everything aside and they run for it
R. Yes
S. Since then it seems like we’re just getting further away from it, the will to receive and the egoism, you can even imagine what we have today, so it’s not clear how this process suddenly will change or what’s going on, what is this process we are in?
R. I think that now its much better time than then because ‘then people were much more blocked and now they are much more open, and they speak about the beginning of the world and the end of the world and all sorts of forms of the life that exists somewhere in space. I think the world advances and advances very quickly and in all sorts of directions at once and doesn’t see here any place to claim for the Creator and the process that we’re going through.
S. I have no arguments against the Creator, I just want to understand what you’re talking about, what’s going on, all these people here talking about and there are a few, they are scientists that no barely reads them, most of humanity you can see there’re a tremendous enhancement of the world to receive?
R. This is the mean and it’s necessary to happens specifically according to that we are happy to discover that we are advancing in a pace towards the final correction.
S. When does the transition take place, when do we change direction?
R. It has’t grown enough.
S. So what do we have to do until, just to wait until for it to grow?
R. We need to grow more in one hand and on the other hand the person has to check that he isn’t receiving anything from it, that in his large will to receive he cannot get or obtain what will calm him.
S. It seems that at least in some fronts, it’s clear to people that we’re going nowhere, there’s some places like the climate crisis, it seems that we’re going towards the fall and you cannot stop it but there are many groups that are.
R. The groups have existed always, they use to be religious groups, now its scientific groups but scientists now is what it used to be, those who sit in monasteries.
S. Yes, but there are groups like the young people that are very despaired from humanity.
R. That was long ago, everything was.
S. Yeah but I don’t see it leading to inner search only despair and bad nerves.
R. Neither..
S. So where is the question, where will it come from?
R. The question will come, let all of these things grow and compost to the end
S. So except for watching this pressure growing?
R. No, but to understand everything that happens and to walk with them and from the side to explain to them where they are and how it contradicts the thought of creation, what can you everyone has to do what he can do.
S. I don’t see anyone interested besides bringing out their own nerves.
R. Okay I have no qualms against them, I do what I can in my time with all the people that come to me and thank God thank the Creator, you at least have a place where you can come and read and study and receive instructions and find friends and we will advance this way.
S. Yes but it feels as if we are in our own bubble not connected to the world.
R. What is the world the world is not a bubble, the world is a mess and we are in a bubble.
S. So that’s how it should be that we’re in a bubble and the world is a mess.
R. Yes, yes, soon it will change and you will see. It isn’t worthwhile to be so pessimistic because the Creator is with his plan, is all and all above us.
60. S. (01:59:46) In Excerpt 12 Baal HaSulam writes that we only need to reach the right deficiency so we will have the right prayer and we’ll get this fulfillment called Lishma, today we’re going to have a few meetings during the day, how can we scrutinize what we need Lishma means?
R. What is need for Lishma?, you have 99% on the wisdom of Kabbalah that talks about that.
S. But how can we in our Ten make the scrutiny so we can really reach the right prayer?
R. To connect within the Ten as one man in one heart and out of the state ask of the Creator to help to explain.
S. But this is the second action that has to be done after we’ve reach the feeling that we have the need for Lishma. How do we know?
R. No, even for the need for Lishma we need to arrive first but, and you’re right, this we do together as well.
S. That’s exactly the question how do we now examine that I have now Ten friends with me and we have the need for Lishma, how can we be guarantors for each other rather than looking at external greatness, we are working in Mutual guarantee to know that each one has a need and now we can really pray.
R. You speak about it, you read about it, you decide on it, you’re right, you sight and in this way you construct yourself every single day.
S. The prayer that has to be there in the end of the action, how to make it that it won’t come out the will to receive because Rav said that we have to cancel this, to annul the will to receive, how to bring out the prayer not from the place where I’m missing this Lishma?
R. There is a prayer book called Ramchal. It’s solid, large, take it and see he was very big, accepted by everyone, very modest, humble, see what he did. That’s it, he wrote.
61. S. (02:02:35) An addition of vessels is reward and an addition of coarseness is a gift?
R. You can say so.
S. Meaning one doesn’t come instead of the other?
R. No, this is correct, everything works together.
S. By the way, these three Musketeers crying about the conditions, I’m not sitting here because of your beautiful eyes, so soon it won’t be in your hands, this whole thing, so L’chaim,.
62. S. (02:03:33) The way I look at things, I see that technology connects people in a more automatic way and the reality of the spiritual world is something else. The connection between people has less value, there’s more pressure, we see it all around the world. The question I have is what is the message from above that only the revelation is between here and the world Kli and Bnei Baruch and the external world, what’s going on, outside we cannot count of anything?
R. The external world, just leave it alone it’s just a wrapper it’s just a wrapper, and what’s important is the connection between all of the people who are thinking about spirituality, the future, the connection between everyone, on what is happening in this generation and what will happen in the next generation. These people are close to us according to the questions, their spirit, that of course what is awakens in them comes from the death of their soul, and we have to try and first make efforts to locate them and bring them closer to us, that’s it, and this at least is in our hand and something, everything else the Creator will take care of.
S. Within everything that is going on outside, what is the dissemination for these days with the automation, the quick fixes, there’s no patient, etc.
R. Yes but we have to understand that always we are between two degrees and we are never happy with what was yesterday in comparison to today and this is our state. So, what I recommend to do is be concerned with the ten and everything else will join in on its own.
63. S. (02:06:27) The first part of my question is: you said from the ten we will learn to turn to the Creator and acquire the quality that allowed me to serve the world Kli. So what can I do so that when I have a good mood and upliftment, I won’t control my ten, I will not put pressure on them in a way that push my friends away?
R. Try to do it with love and you will not have any mistakes.
S. There is one more part in my question: we all have innate qualities, we are born with them; for example, I can bring some joy, some good mood with my quality, so my question is. Is my role in the world Kli the way I serve the world Kli of through this quality of discovering myself, of bestowal?
R. Yes, yes.
64. S. (02:07:57) Can we say that our entire work to give pleasure to the Creator, to say, “yes, we want Lishma”?
R. This is certainly the most important, if we together can connect and scream to the Creator to demand, to cry out for Him to give us Lishma, this is already MAN of Gmar Tikkun, of the end of Correction.
S. What is it that determines that we say, yes, is that the Creator wanting us to want more, is it because we’re simply being banished from the state of reception or do we stop loving reception?
R. We’re being chased away from reception, we’re shown how empty it is, and for us to want to come closer to the wisdom of Kabbalah, not to receive but the wisdom of Kabbalah. For us to know truly how to fulfill ourselves and through that, bring contentment to the Creator so that He takes pleasure from the beings that enjoy living in His world.
S. Why if the Creator gives us a bit of His life Lo Lishma in order to advance, why do we say that there’s such a great distance between the world of reception and the world of bestowal?
R. Because these are two opposite qualities, and more and more, from day to day, we discover the oppositeness grew between them grows more and more.
65. S. (02:11:12) Just the pinpoint the condition of Lishma: I want to share what happened this morning. I was basking in the pleasure of the Creator and I had no desire to get up, but the thought of my friends and my friends ejected me out of the bed and I’m here. Is this the reason equivalent to the condition for Lishma?
R. No, entirely no, and even opposite but we will learn and we will talk about it.
66. S. (02:12:25) When we receive pleasure from the connection between us, do we receive this pleasure in our vessels of reception or bestowal?
R. The vessels of reception.
S. So how to correct them?
R. This is what we discuss on a regular basis.
67. S. (02:12:59) On the one hand, Lishma is like a sixth finger we don’t need, on the other hand, it’s like a sixth sense that draws us, like something we really need. When we first came to the wisdom of Kabbalah we had some flavor, sometimes we also have this flavor for it. Can we say that we’re coming closer and we sometimes feel this quality but we can;’t establish it, and when we do establish it, we’ll feel, we once had it and we came closer to something a few times.
R. We will absolutely and certainly arrive at a state of bestowal and in it sense the whole upper world, but for now patience, for now we need patience.
68. S. (02:14:12) You talked about looking, seeing the friends in spirituality, how does this fall into place with reaching a common need for Lishma?
R. I don’t understand what she’s saying.
S. You said that we should see our friends already in a spirituality, how does this coincide with needing to reach a common request?
R. Make an effort, try, you will see that there is a way, an approach.
69. S. (02:14:56) A question that really concerns me: what should be my relation with dissemination since that’s also bestowal in order to receive?
R. We need to relate to it as an intermediate state from which we arrive at bestowal, first that we bestow and pass on to others, and then they pass onwards, meaning it’s a good action.
70. S. (02:15:56) “Envy, lust and honor can bring a person out of this world”, I’m corrupt enough and I don’t feel the envy towards my friends in my ten, separately, for each and everyone; but when I think that they are connected I have an envy to be this state, is this the right approach?
R. No.
S. So we have to fill it separately?
R. Yes.
71. S. (02:16:43) What is spiritual fear towards the friends?
R. What is the question?
S. “Everything is in the hands of the Creator except for the fear of the Creator”, it’s very hard to grasp it, what does it mean to have a spiritual fear toward my friends?
R. You need to try to be in spiritual fear that at least what you’re feeling towards them now in a good relationship will not drop but always will go up, always increase.
S. It feels as if the path to Lishma is not in my hand, it’s in the friends.
R. Yes, correct, so bestow on to them whatever you want then to bestow unto you, and see how much it will work.
S. Not so long ago, you mentioned that “holiness, sanctity waits for a person to grow”, I wanted to ask what does it mean to grow in spirituality, to grow in this process and will sanctity wait?
R. Sanctity waits, it stands at the surrounding light of Ein Sof but we need to attempt, to try as fast as quickly as possible to come closer to Him?
S. What cry is the Creator waiting from us?
R. It’s the most final scream, that after that there’s nothing more.
S. Which is, what is this out cry?
R. This outcry is when you ask, you beg, you demand for help from above, for a correction from above.
72. S. (02:19:16) We learned today that Lishma is the fear of the Creator, you said we have to pray, to us for Lishma, many times we hear the friend saying they want Lishma what do we mean; here it’s the fear of the Creator, it sounds like something we don’t want, a different King that instead of me that dictates what I should do.
R. So what is it called Lishma, Lishma is called that you are accepting on yourself one hundred percent, one hundred percent, the upper governance that determines for you everything in life from the first point to the last point and outside of it to all directions, that there’s no other governance other than There Is None besides Him and you want this to rule over you in one hundred percent over the mind and heart.
S. Moreover, we learn from Rabash, he teaches us, that we can reach it through allowing the ten, the friends to be above us, to control me,
R. This is a means, yes.
S. That’s even will to receive that pushes away more will to receive, how do you see us, how can the will to receive agree to such a thing, it doesn’t want anyone else except for himself, he doesn’t want anyone else to tell him what to do?
R. But if you are paid for that, let’s say 5 billion dollars.
S. I won’t.
R. 50 billion?
S. The numbers don’t matter, even if I’ll be in this world, I don’t care.
R. Name your price.
S. That’s the thing, there’s no number that will turn me to a slave of someone else, or something else.
R. Are you sure?
S. Otherwise I’m a slave, what will these dollars give me?
R. What do you mean what are these Shekels?
S. Even if I’m in prison, if someone tells me what to do, it doesn’t matter how much money I seemingly have, I can’t be a slave, the will to receive won’t agree to not be the one to determine for himself that freedom is most important.
R. Freedom you can buy, in what are you free now: now you go home and from the evening you are always in slavery, and during the night and during the day and all of your life in slavery, where you are told us Baal HaSulam writes, “everything I do”. So first you knew one slave, let’s say a friend and then he cared for you, he did for you as he is. Today you have a thousand owners, masters, look at what they’re doing to you, all sorts of cards, no I don’t know what they call them, with that you are known, who you are, where you are, and how to twist you every moment.
S. Yes maybe it scares someone but today everyone is being followed.
R. “The sorrow of many is half a solace”, this is how it was with the slaves back then.
S. So how can I see the transition when I’m a slave and I don’t want to stay there, in the current state I don’t see and I’m not willing to let anyone else to control my life?
R. This is why this is called, people I don’t know how they’re called, people who know how to work with audiences to turn other people technologically and so on. So they can explain to you, this all arrives to a control over large masses and the large mass, the large audience receives it in good faith and even pay for it and so on,. this is life.
S. Is it possible for humanity to understand soon that each and every person in the world will feel that reality is playing with it and they are slave of them?
R. Yes, the will to receive grows with each passing date and this is why humanity prepares and recommends all sorts of technologies, how to manage everyone, and this is how it penetrates the society. It just appeared to us that we are freer but you come from work and you come home and you sit in front of the TV or the computer a few more hours, and all in all when you wake up in the morning until you go to sleep at night, it seems to you that you are spending the day free, it is a lie, it is a complete and utter lie. You have nothing free but humanity wants to close its eyes and not even look at it this way, that is not freedom rather, we will feel it soon.
73. S. (02:26:28) Can we use these technologies in a purposeful way?
R. Nope, they are all arranged to begin with, how to twist large masses into a direction; let them be busy with all the games so that they do not turn to the correct place. Okay friends, dear friends what do you have today?