SATURDAY PRAYER: TIFERET-YESHIVAT HAVERIM יְשִׁיבָה חברים – BABYLONIAN TALMUD p128

Man & God Mitzvot

SATURDAY PRAYER: TIFERET-YESHIVAT HAVERIM יְשִׁיבָה חברים – BABYLONIAN TALMUD p128

READING: BETWEEN MIDNIGHT AND DAWN OF SATURDAY

It was taught concerning the statement of the Mishna: He who forgot, etc., that Rabh and
Samuel both said: Even a child that was captured by idolaters or a proselyte who remained
among idolaters is regarded as one who was aware of the principle, but forgot it and is liable;
and both R. Johanan and Resh Lakish said that the liability falls only upon him who was aware,
but subsequently forgot; the child and the proselyte in question are considered as if they were
never aware, and are free.
An objection was raised from the following: A general rule was laid down concerning the
observation of the Sabbath. One who had entirely forgotten the principle of Sabbath, and had
performed many kinds of work on many Sabbath days, is liable for but one sin-offering. How
so? A child which was captured by idolaters and a proselyte remaining with idolaters, who had
performed many acts of labor on different Sabbaths, are liable for but one sin-offering; and also
for the blood or (prohibited) fats which he has consumed during the whole time, and even for
worshipping idols during the whole time, he is liable for only one sin-offering. Munbaz,
however, frees them entirely. And thus did he discuss before R. Aqiba: Since the intentional
transgressor and the unintentional are both called sinners, I may say: As an intentional one
cannot be called so unless he was aware that it is a sin, the same is the case with an
unintentional, who cannot be called sinner unless he was at some time aware that this is a sin (it
is true, then, the above must be considered as never having been aware of it). Said R. Aqiba to,
him: “I will make an amendment to your decree, as the intentional transgressor cannot be
considered as such unless he is cognizant of his guilt at the time of action, so also should not the
unintentional transgressor be considered as such unless he is cognizant at the time of action.”
Answered Munbaz: “So it is, and the more so after your amendment.” Thereupon R. Aqiba
replied: “According to your reasoning, one could not be called an unintentional transgressor, but
an intentional.” Hence it is plainly stated: “How so? A child,” etc. This is only in accordance
with Rabh and Samuel, and it contradicts R. Johanan and R. Simeon b. Lakish. They may say:
“Is there not a Tana Munbaz, who freed them? We hold with him and with his reason, namely: It
is written [Numb. xv. 29]: “A law shall be for you, for him that acteth through ignorance,”
and the next verse says [ibid. 30], “but the person that doeth aught with a high hand.” The verse
compares then the ignorant to him who has acted intentionally; and as the latter cannot be guilty
unless he was aware of his sin, the same is the case with the ignorant, who cannot be considered
guilty unless he was at some time aware of the sin.

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