MONDAY: HOD-TIKKUN CHATZOT תקון חצות – LESSON WITH RAV MICHAEL LAITMAN
READING: FROM MIDNIGHT TO DAWN MONDAY
Rabash. What Is the Meaning of Failure in the Work?. 2 (1990)
Morning Lesson July 29, 2023
Transcription is made from simultaneous translation, which leaves a possibility for differences in the audio
Part 1:
Rabash. Article No. 2 (1990). What Is the Meaning of Failure in the Work?
1. Rav’s Introduction: Yes well, it appears to be an important matter, we fail for a long time, we repeat failures, we rise above the failures and we fall again; what is this line that we have to hold on to in order to not fail and is that in regard to many failures or one failure that is broken down in many states, we’ll see.
Reading “What Is the Meaning of Failure in the Work?” (01:05)
2. S. (24:57) He writes being rewarded with faith individually or privately.
R. Yes?
S. Individually, not be part of the collective at all, we know that all the discernments, all the spiritual discernments that we wish to attain are between a person and his friend, and here it’s the reverse, he negates it. How does it happen individually, it’s a paragraph on nine hundred, seventy-one, second paragraph, I can read it.
Reading “The failure that happened to Adam HaRishon…” (25:49)
S. So how can it be that the vessel is individual?
R. The vessel is a deficiency, that you’ll have a deficiency to discover the Creator in a complete manner, individually, yes.
S. Meaning that part that I won’t be able to correct will belong to the general vessel? I don’t understand because the vessel wil be flawed because the general vessel is not just my personal vessel, I’m part of the vessel?
R. So you contain the entire Kli, and that is your Kli because you attain it.
3. S. (27:49) There’s a paragraph that ends with “what is added to Faith means that he leans toward idolatry”, meaning a person wants to kind of become more, you know, free thinking and it’s forbidden.
R. Only as part of Faith, otherwise he won’t succeed.
S. It’s a subtle point, it’s not because he was evil, he wanted?
R. What he wanted doesn’t matter, it’s not important, was that correct or not.
4. S. (28:34) It says here that “the commandment from the Creator is more important than giving Him contentment”, meaning if I wish to bestow but I don’t have the intention to take it fully, is a commandment from the Creator, it’s not the same?
R. I don’t understand you and where is it written?
S. It’s written at the bottom of page 970 “Adam HaRishon should have said to the snake that although within reason you are correct, if I will eat from the Tree with an intention to bestow, the Creator will also receive contentment and even though you’re one hundred percent right, I go above reason, I want to carry out the commandment of the Creator without reason because by adding to that it means that he leaned towards idolatry”. It means the commandment is more important than giving contentment to the Creator, or I don’t understand it?
R. I don’t know, also I don’t understand what you’re asking, was there a limitation a commandment over Adam HaRishon what was it?
S. Yes, not to eat from the Tree of Knowledge?
R. What’s the question?
S. Well, the serpent told him that he should eat from the Tree of Knowledge because the Creator wants him to do it and receive contentment from it.
R. Yes?
S. So he did eat from it in order to give Him contentment?
R. Ultimately, if he would eat he would be perfectly fine because the Creator didn’t mean that he wouldn’t eat but after the corrections.
S. Meaning it wasn’t the right time to eat the apple?
R. Mmhmmm.
5. S. (31:00) He writes that “for him the evil overcomes daily”, and then he ends the sentence with “specifically then he receives the desire and a need for the help the Creator”. On our path the will to receive constantly expects to feel better as a result of everything we’re doing, should a person reach a point of maturity where he needs to understand that he has to expect no improvement in these corporeal state but this expectation should be a different kind of final maturity. let’s call it?
R. Probably yes.
S. Now what does he need to expect, a mature person on our path I mean, what is his expectation, he has to expect something?
R. From day to day he has a newer, stronger expectation in that he’s moving toward complete bestowal toward the Creator.
S. If he still is not with that expectation?
R. But from day to day, it’s more.
S. He has to expect more?
R. Yes.
S. Here in the article he describes a primordial state, all kinds of forces at work, the serpent, the Creator, the created being, and it’s shown that the relationship between those forces extend all the way to our state today almost and it’s also inside of us?
R. Yes, of course.
S. How can those things, I mean physically I understand things that pass from generation to generation, genes and all that, but how can spiritual things, fundamental things are present in a person, they influence a person, I hope I manage to.
R. We’re all under the same forces, we’re influenced by the same forces, same qualities, so what’s to ask here but new things. There’s nothing new, we have to work as we did years ago, now as well, with the qualities that appeared to Adam HaRishon.
S. I can see it as laws, laws of attraction, of nature?
R. Laws of nature, of course, of course; God in Gematria, the numerical value is equal to the Nature.
6. S. (34:26) It says that “he entered this work and his intention was that by that he will come closer to the Creator and now he sees the contrary, that he’s going backwards and not forward however a person should believe that he’s making progress in the work”.
R. Meaning that according to what I understand, I do advance towards the Creator, I better feel, understand, and can detect things better.
S. Okay, so if I’m checking myself and that is the result that you described, I understand that I’m advancing?
R. In what, in knowing the truth.
S. Which is?
R. Which is that I’m far.
S. So where am I advancing to?
R. Truth!
7. S. (35:40) He gives an example in the article about a person, a sick person who checks his temperature, he has a thirty-eight degrees Centigrade and then he goes to the doctor and the doctor sees it’s a forty degrees Centigrade fever. And the question is about his bad luck, that he reveals a little bit of evil and the doctor reveals more evil, the question is: How can we measure our take, our own temperature and discover that we do in fact have a high fever, how do we do that?
R. That’s according to the recognition of evil, meaning the more you try to be good and you see that you, nevertheless, don’t advance.
S. So why, what’s revealed initially is thirty-eight degrees and not forty?
R. You haven’t made sufficient efforts to rise above thirrthy-eight.
S. So does a person know if he exerted everything or not?
R. According to his calculation, he did everything
S. So how would we know that we did not do everything?
R. By the failures.
8. S. (37:16) He says that “Adam HaRishon added that part to the Creator and that was a sin because he heard from this serpent about the intention”. What is it in our work, how to not fall into a state where you’re adding to the Creator, that the will receive is telling us to do it.
R. We want to advance, we each time see ourselves that we’re not advancing but maybe the opposite, we’re moving backwards, and here he explains to us that it’s not like what we think, that we’re truly regressing, but it’s kind of a progress that we are getting closer to the Creator but we think we are retreating.
S. Meaning our ego is advancement?
R. It’s not that we hear, it’s that when we each time reveal our will to receive as stronger, that is progress.
S. But how not to add but to hear what the Creator wants us, how He wants us to advance because Adam HaRishon added he had, he listened to the Creator and to come closer to the Creator, to the end of correction. But he didn’t listen to Him, he added what the will to receive told him; so how in our work not to fall into that sin, that state where we constantly move away from the Creator, and if we listen to the Creator we would come closer much quickly.
R. We will soon understand it.
9. S. (39:47) The name of the article, what is the meaning of ‘failure in the work’, please help bring it closer to the ten, practically. What is failure, are there any examples we can get?
R. Failure, probably when we want to advance and we fail in our actions of progress, when we think that we should advance. We labored and then we want to feel ourselves closer to the Creator, and what appears is the opposite at best, nothing.
S. A person reveals this individually as a result of his actions, he failed, or the ten reveals it?
R. No, here we’re talking about it individually.
S. And there’s also Faith here where it says “even though and because he lacks such Faith, this is the root of all the sins, and there are two things in faith, the first is that there’s a leader in the world”, so what is it that a person has Faith, how can a person check his faith to the side of “he is the leader of the world”, how to check that?
R. How do you check that you have ‘a leader in the world’ or not?
S. Yes, yes towards Faith?
R. If a person has the power of Faith then he checks using that force, but if he doesn’t have the force of Faith, then he has nothing to measure actually.
S. He checks his feeling, now he has it, now he doesn’t, that’s all he checks?
R. Yes, to what extent the Creator is revealed to him in the power of Faith.
S. And if he knows that, beforehand he doesn’t feel and now he seemingly feels it that He’s leading the world, how to not to confuse himself further whether or not he has Faith, what should he add to it?
R. Because it’s a matter of Revelation, of a feeling, so there’s nothing to ask about it, if you feel it, you feel it.
10. S. (42:35) He writes that “you cannot correct the evil unless you see it in it’s true form”, what does it mean “it’s true form”?
R. To what extent the evil harms getting closer to the group and getting closer to the Creator.
S. Meaning if I feel it in my will to receive, it’s not enough to come out, the request has to be in something else, right?
R. Right.
S. So I need to see that the evil prevents me from connecting and I have to ask on that, because that’s what’s preventing me from connecting with the friends.
R. Yes.
11. S. (43:21) We read here about receiving in order to bestow and it’s a commandment, who decides how much we can receive in order to bestow, is it given to you, revealed to you by the Creator or from that state?
R. Man, from his adhesion with the Creator, he measures how much he can receive in order to bestow so that this reception will be as bestowal.
S. So he has an index of how much he can bestow and that’s the sin, he started this whole thing because he was certain he was going to bestow and that was the failure.
R. Right, right.
S. So how do you reconcile that with when a person receives in order to bestow, he can make a calculation.
R. Then he wasn’t able to make this calculation, yes.
S. So in any case, you can’t make the calculation or the revelation has to come from above, the help has to come from above and only then you can understand, you can receive an order to bestow?
R. Correct.
12. S. (44:46) We said a person advances towards recognition of truth, so recognizing the truth is that he’s further and further away from the Creator, more immersed in self-love.
R. Well okay, let’s say.
S. Now we need to reach equivalence of form so what form does he equalize to, it becomes, he’s trying to get closer to the light, then he becomes more like a donkey, so how’s he advancing?
R. No, he measures himself each time more accurately and he sees that he hasn’t yet attained his level of identification with the Creator, yes. And he moves away, meaning according to his personal, individual feeling, he is if moves away, becomes worse.
S. So when will equivalence of form come?
R. So let’s continue, ask together that we break into the Creator’ don’t be ‘a gentleman’, here, simply, it has to be where you’ve had enough.
S. Connect together us together
13. S. (46:46) Following the evil he writes that “he feel bad and to that extent denial rest ,dwells within him”; on our path there are plenty of descents so when a person feels bad does it mean that he’s in denial, that he’s a heretic.
R. I guess this is after a denial, I guess the denial is before, it was the reason for the descent.
S. During the descent when he feels bad ,it’s not considered denial; it says here “when he feels bad denial lies upon him”?
R. Yes.
S. I didn’t understand?
R. That’s the state, itself, denial that he feels bad and he feels bad, that he thinks receives it from the Creator
S. And that’s also the reason you explained to us, you gave us the example of Rabash, when he felt the descent and he was forcefully try to distract himself from thse states?
14. S. (48:02) What is so good about recognizing the evil, this isn’t the first article, in many articles we talk about how all the work is recognition of evil and we’re gradually recognized evil, what’s the benefit of that?
R. First of all you discover what the Creator created, that is truth; additionally, you begin to demand that this bad will remove from you, will depart from you, we have something concrete in your hand. You come to the Creator and you demand of Him, “I want to get rid of this, You’ve done this, You’ve created this, now You must help me out here rise above it”.
S. It sounds as though the more evil I reveal the more I have what to come to the Creator with, so it’s a benefit?
R. Of course it’s a benefit and it’s difficult, it’s not simple.
S. Basically the recognition of evil is like a payment or what I can go to the Creator with?
R. It’s against that that you reveal, you discover, “I created the evil inclination, I created the Torah as a spice”.
S. Basically the whole recognition of evil is that now I have something real to go with to the Creator with?
R. Yes.
S. Is there something in this evel that is the Creator or, like, the opposite of the Creator or not, meaning when I discover the Creator when I discover the evil?
R. You’re saying something here, but for the time being, no, for the time being, no.
15. S. (50:21) When a person feels bad in corporeality he’s willing to do actions from here to the end of the world, like you said many times, even in person is willing to go on to the operation room, so why doesn’t he feel the same when the evil is revealed between him and the friends and their their growing sensitivity of closeness and distances with them?
R. Either did not discover or reveal that it’s truly evil, or he doesn’t discover that he has a remedy that he can take and cure himself, at least it’s one of these two.
S. But the Creator puts him in more states, I do discover with the friends more sates than before in my connection with them, I can detect that. But why is there no urgency for correction like when they’re suffering incorporality?
R. That’s how concealment is playing with us, intentionally, you have to come to the Creator and demand it.
16. S. (51:46) What’s the difference when a person feels his evil versus the Creator revealing his evil?
R. When a person feels the evil, the bad, it’s as a result of some disturbance by his egoistic will to receive and when he reveals the bad, the evil, through the upper light, this is already true evil that comes from the Creator.
17. S. (52:35) What is the place of the intention to be healed from the evil and so forth, why do I do this for me, for whom?
R. Well, that’s the main thing in your demand, why am I doing this correction.
S. So how do I need to look at it?
R. You can say that you feel bad, I’m causing bad to the Creator ,to the friends, to the group, the whole world, all of humanity; these are already parts of recognition of evil.
S. Who is the end result here, the Creator?
R. Yes.
18. S. (53:48) The question, it says in the first paragraph, “you failed in your iniquity” and in the second it says, “what was the failure that you didn’t see in advance”; could Adam HaRishon see, could he have seen the future in advance?
R. I don’t know how to interpret exactly everything that happened to Adam HaRishon, they say “he used to see from one end of the world to the other”; ask something closer closer to us.
S. Is the person judged for the iniquity that is according to the attainment of the Creator?
R. No, a person is judged or evaluated according to those boundaries the Creator sets before him and within these boundaries, he has to exist, he has to feel, to measure and to react.
19. S. (55:32) The serpent in the person always gives us advice to the person that are true advice within reason, how can a person develop such a discernment so that when he should go follow the advice of the serpent or work of abo e reason even though he sees that within reason it’s all correct?
R. Again?
S. The serpent in a person always gives advice to the person which is correct within reason, how can a person develop such a discernment so as to know when to walk, when to follow the advice of the servant and when to go above reason?
R. If he still cannot distinguish between good and bad, good and evil, between what he receives from his nature and what he receives as guidance from above, then he cannot do anything, correctly.
S. Meaning that he will follow the advice of the serpent even though it will lead to failure?
R. He doesn’t know it’s the advice of the serpent, he thinks it’s correct.
S. The serpent in every person, basically, there’s this internality that tells you what to do, a person doesn’t have the ability to discern if the serpent is correct or not so he has to go above reasons, how does he it develop that discernment?
R. He has a group, he has friends, he’s got a ten, meaning he needs to check everything in it and calibrate himself accordingly, correctly, toward the goal.
S. Meaning if he fails this, God forbid, this will be a failure of the ten or there’s no way to fail if he’s incorporated with the ten?
R. No he can’t exactly evaluate whether he’s doing it or not, but if he treats himself according to the ten, according what everyone thinks and studies, then typically he will not be wrong, he will be in the right but this is hard to do, it’s hard to do it, it’s like the demands that the Creator demands from a person.
20. S. (58:25) I wanted to ask, he writes, “because of the sin of Adam HaRishon all the generation afterwards have to work in faith”?
R. Yes.
S. Why did the sin brought that condition of faith into the system?
R. What’s the difference between what he has to do after he sinned and before he sinned, and?
S. So it was for working inself love, I want to understand, ultimately the need for his connection with the Creator, so what happened in the sin that the connection with the Creator will only be through faith? It’s as if the faith wasn’t part of the system before?
R. Yes?
S. So why is there such a condition now that only through faith you can be in contact with the Creator?
R. Because of the sin.
S. What, what is it about?
R. Because he now he lacks the discernment of whether he is going within reason or above it.
S. Why did the sin create concealment and restriction in the system?
R. Because he was going for in order to receive, he wanted to use the power of reception to reach correction, he wanted to use his mind, his intellect, his power to attain the Creator, not in the Creator’s vessels, the desire to bestow, but his own vessels, the will to receive.
S. This condition to go back to connection with the Creator, it happens only through faith?
R. Yes.
S. Where is the restriction and consumment here, this is what dwells on the reality as long there is no relation?
R. He comes to faith, I will tell you from the other side: He comes to Faith through love of friends, through replacing self-love with love of others.
S. But how does this transformation happen of exiting the evil, coming out of self-love; also he says, “ultimately the Creator gives this to you”. Like the example with the doctor, the doctor now decides to measure your temperature, you didn’t ask for this, he decided to do it.
R. I did not understand, you are changing your approach with the Creator’s approach, that’s it; if you’re following it then it is certain you come to a state where you succeed because it works according to the bestowal.
S. By changing the approaches in man’s hands, he determines that this is changing or the Creator?
R. No, the person wants and the Creator executes.
S. So you know how to want it exactly or what?
R. Gradually, gradually you determine it, it’s mainly actions that you raise in importance and level of precision, you raise them higher and higher.
S. It’s clear, so how does this thing called Faith, where does that enter because the action of behalf of the lower one is prayer, to ask. Where is Faith here, where do you bring that from?
R. Faith are those forces, it’s that principle to which I want to reach bestowal.
S. So faith allows you to be above the evil, above the will to receive, that is what keeps you above, no?
R. Yes?
S. So how do you reach faith?
R. By asking, I am asking for the power of bestowal, the power of faith, love of others; and from that, I gradually begin to acquire a feeling that this thing actually exists because previously it did not exist in me.
S. Last question then, the moment you start having Faith, this is means the evil remains or it is canceled?
R. To some extent, not entirely, the evil is always going to be there on the background until the end of correction, but it’s the kind that helps us advance.
21. S. (01:04:50) So how to ask for correction of the evil and not that there will be some of it left, like he says?
R. Correction of the evil comes through love of others, only in this way.
S. So that means in the work with the friends, yes, so how do I really discover the evil and that kind of hide it a little bit, how do I really discover it so it can be corrected?
R. You want the evil to help you come out of the evil, that won’t quite happen.
S. So what will because he says if the evil is not fully revealed then you can’t ask for correction.
R. Um-Hmm.
S. So how do I discovered all the way without some manipulation?
R. Tell me, what would you do with the evil would be revealed to you as good and the good would be revealed to you as evil?
S. I guess I will be just like some balloon that is inflating, I would just want it.
R. Well how, how do you change it, reverse it?
S. That I think is the question because you always discover the evil within you and you enjoy something there, you have an excuse, you just, how do you discover it fully.
R. Soon.
22. S. (01:07:14) What is the process of the correction of the evil, can it be partial or like we said before?
R. Gradually, it is the matter of degrees.
S. So there is a correction of some part, something good remains, meaning the revelation of the evil could be of the different part of the desire, for instance?
R. What is he asking, when the evil is revealed more and more and more, and relative to that the good is revealed less and less.
S. Like we said before with the temperature, so he didn’t correct the illness he just discovers more and more of the bad or there is some correction of the desire that appears?
R. No he can’t correct his desire, he can’t correct his fever, you can only reach state for him and the Creator, both of them see the truth and they’re willing to take this medication.
S. Correction of the desire can only be in full, complete?
R. Not fully, it can also be partially, but for the time being the person feels as if this is everything.
23. S. (01:09:13) Usually when I think of faith above reason it seems intangible to me, how can I look at increasing the faith?
R. Be connected more and more with the friends, and more and more determine your future among them.
S. But on the day today we have kind of a routine of the Zooms and….
R. The routine destroys everything, you have to fight it.
S. So to look, to as if to explore what it means to be more connected in the ten, to look for it?
R. Yes of course, that’s the whole work, “they should be as new in your eyes”, that’s written about that.
24. S. (01:10:06) He writes in the article that a person, that man listens to the Creator with everything and he wants to bring contentment to the Creator with everything but once the serpent came and spoke to him within reason, there was some sort of flaw, he didn’t have the discernment of above reason, he couldn’t go above reason and that was the sin and it was such a bad sinning that all of the transgressions come from that sin and so forth. So if the intention was seemingly good, why specifically the principle of above reason is most important?
R. Because specifically through that he’s correcting his own nature, he has no way of correcting nature except this way.
25. S. (01:11:12) Can we say that the sin of the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge is as if man’s correct state?
R. Yes.
S. So the results of the shattering in each one, there can be a corrected state and this is like an example of man’s complete correction?
R. Yes.
26. S. (01:11:55) According to what is the level of evil that man can be shown?
R. The level of evil that can be revealed to the person according to his degree of connection in the ten.
S. Because by them he can correct?
R. Because by them he can correct the evil and invite the reforming light and advance and not fall.
S. How does man’s connection with the ten reveals the evil, that he really discovers it?
R. You have a soccer team, you had Pele’ once, well I don’t know, but one, all the rest are zeros so can he do it, can he succeed?
S. No.
R. So that’s why they must trust one another and play together and accordingly reach correction.
S. What’s the connection between, so a person needs to ask the Creator to correct his evil, right?
R. The person has to ask the Creator to correct his evil but he has to come to this request equipped with all the necessary ingredients. In this way it would not do him any good if he’s going to be alone it will not help.
S. Why not discovering the evil turning to?
R. No, none of this, most collective is two, it’s written, ‘it would have been better, ten’.
S. So what’s exactly is the connection in the ten with respect to recognition of evil, can’t connect these two things?
R. Because with the Creator gives is revealed in the connection between them, it is revealed in the connection in the ten and then they can bestow to one another, they can, each one can open himself up toward the other, they can connect with the one inner force and that’s how they build the true vessel for the revelation of the Creator without this nothing will come out. You can be a champion in knowledge and whatever, but if you have no mutual connection with your friends that are supporting you and you supporting them, it will eventually, what will be revealed to you is this is what you need, for some, it will be immediately, for some will take time but this is what the path requires.
S. Why is it mutual support in the ten, does it let the person show more evil because in the end you have to turn to the Creator, not the ten, to the Creator to correct?
R. But with whom are you turning to the Creator, what are you asking Him for?
S. A correction?
R. What correction?
S. Of the evil that’s revealed in me.
R. That is revealed to you, in you, no this is incorrect, you want the good to be revealed in all the friends in your ten.
S. So also the evil I have to reveal in the friends?
R. It is enough if you feel upon the evil that you want the evil to be revealed otherwise it won’t work, bit by bit.
27. S. (01:16:28) There’s two degrees of repentance, one until the Creator, second is until Throne of your Honor?
R. Yes.
S. And it says “until your Creator is a private correction”, so isn’t there a combination between the individual connection that combines the ten to the higher degree of faith above reason, I guess that’s the throne?
R. Yes.
S. So it’s just for certain individual ,a certain state, there’s no combination between them?
R. Combination, yes one of the other, until the Creator, your God, this is in general, and then until the throne is the personal peak.
S. The revealed above reason, thank you.
28. S. (01:17:46) When the person advances in the work so the difficulties of this world also become greater, and the way to come out of the state is called ‘repentance’, so how do we come to true repentance in such a situation
R. Only through delving in the materials of Rabash and through the group, I don’t see any other means, articles of Rabash and taking care of the group.
29. S. (01:18:52) If There is None Else besides Him and everything is from the Creator including what the serpent tells him and everything, so the sin was caused by the Creator, how could it be the created beings desire is above the Creator’s desire, the Creator does everything?
R. Well it’s clear that the Creator is the one doing everything and He also admits it in the beginning ‘I have created the evil inclination’, that is it. He does that for two reasons: That there is no other reason for the evil inclination but the Creator, and there is no one else to turn to in order to correct, raise the evil inclination upward, but the Creator, that is it.
30. S. (01:20:39) How can we help the friend appreciate the concealment because it seems like it distances him and he is like a bubble of moving away so how can we help him still?
R. What was, friend, can you help with the question?
S. He asked how can we help the friend that is in concealment because in that state we want to help him but he is kind of moving away because he is wrapped in himself, how can we help him as the ten?
R. Example, set an example for him how we behave in the state that he is in, that is it. He is in a certain state of concealment, what should we do when we are in concealment? We try to connect to the friends, we’re trying to actually reach out, to come and not to sleep in the lessons, and more and more such things, effort, what we call exertion, that is it. The group on its behalf has to help the person, has to take him deeper in the circle to warm him up, that is it.
31. S. (01:22:35) In the beginning he mentions the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil, that we can’t get the reason or the knowledge of the Creator, but then he said the Creator invests efforts until He reaches the revelation in revealment. So what’s the difference between knowledge and revealing Him clearly?
R. The extent of control, the extent of control over the evil, the good and the connection between the two. Like we say in the wisdom of Kabbalah there is bestowing in order to bestow, this degree, and there’s to receive in order to bestow. Receiving in order to bestow is already something that you can’t imagine. When you start working with your will to receive the way you decide, this is very, very, even non-clear, how you can do that.
S. We want to work in faith above reason, how can we be sure that the revelation of the Creator that we will get won’t be as it was that the first Adam tasted the fruit?
R. We are going together from the broken vessel to the complete vessel, that’s why we can’t be mistaken like Adam HaRishon, to begin with, it’s not there, it does not come to us.
32. S. (01:12:47) How do I come out of the state of denial of the evil inclination when it is shown to me?
R. How do I, how am I able to see?
S. How do I come out of the state of denial when it’s shown to me, the evil?
R. I still can’t understand.
S. Okay, they’re showing me my evil inclination and I don’t want to see it, how do I come out of that?
R. So you’re not doing what you should do, so you stay in the state you’re in, and that is how it remains one more year, two more years, eventually you will surrender; ultimately you have no choice, you bow down your head.
S. Yes and you don’t have, let’s say, the force of faith yet but for the force of faith, you need to be, let’s say, in Dvekut or equivalence of form with the Creator and you don’t have that either so how do you come out of this this circle, denial?
R. It’s not a closed circle, you have not yet begun, you have not yet begun.
S. What is the beginning, Rav?
R. The beginning, you start from surrendering yourself to the group, there you see exactly what you are still lacking, that’s it.
33. S. (01:27:07) In the article it’s written that “as much as the concealment is greater so the revelation is greater”, on the other hand we learn the greater the revelation you have to conceal more. So does that mean that the screen has two directions, that before the correction the Creator conceals and after the correction man has to conceal himself, is that right?
R. Yes.
34. S. (01:27:59) How can we have a better thermometer to measure our fever correctly?
R. Again?
S. How can we make our thermometer that only measures thirty-eight instead of eighty to make it better so it will be precise like the Creator?
R. This depends on a person, how subtle he becomes to his own states, you understand, this is the whole thing.
S. And then we’ll be able to be more objective?
R. Well of course if you measure and feel it’s forty, you will behave differently.
S. But in order to do that, we actually need to come out of ourselves to a higher point of view?
R. Everything depends on the connection with the group, there, you get from them a connection and then you can measure yourself in a more precise way.
S. And then when we do it and the more evil is revealed, because it was always there, we are just now aware of it, and that fills you with despair.
R. Why despair, if you’re with the group together, you also feel bad on the one hand, on the other hand, you feel you are with your friends.
S. I understand that this is an opportunity to correct, I know the real weight I have to lift and I can build a crane that is suitable for it, let’s say?
R. Yes, thank you.
35. S. (01:30:06) If behind everything it’s None Else Besides Him so from what point do my transgression start, what is my sin?
R. Your sin, your sin is that you are not yet connecting all the friends to one group and you don’t feel along with them, together in one desire, that is your sin; and this is the sin for each and everyone from their behalf.
36. S. (01:31:07) In our ten we feel we are advancing and coming closer to the truth through revealing the failures and connection, how can we use this in the prayer in the ten, should we give gratitude for the revelation of evil or how to reach the right prayer?
R. Certainly to be a grateful for the revelation of evil because as evil is revealed we can correct it, rise above it to use it in the proper way, otherwise it wouldn’t be revealed. About this it is written that “we are happy, we should be happy when the evil is revealed” because when there is an unrevealed evil you have zero chance to correct it, you remember?
37. S. (01:32:27) Will I know the difference between the thirty-eight to forty degree fever towards the friends, and if I’m constantly in this opening towards the Creator and He’s constantly sending me things through the friends, so I’m confused could it be the Torah is my friends?
R. I didn’t understand what she’s asking, let her ask again.
S. It is written that the Torah is revealing the true state to a man?
R. Yes, forty degrees.
S. And you say a person wants to feel the truth he has to go to the friends, so she’s asking if the Torah and the friends are the same, who is revealing the truth?
R. Yes, ultimately this is truth, they are also revealed there, they discover their mistake there too, they correct themselves until the group and the Creator become as one and they come closer to both, together.
S. When the friend shows me the evil inclination, so the Creator gives me new qualities?
R. Again, when the friend?
S. When the friend shows me the evil inclination, so does the Creator give me new qualities?
R. Yes.
38. S. (01:35:29) How to reach a state that together with the Creator we want to correct the evil?
R. I didn’t get it, again, repeat?
S. How to reach a state that together with the Creator we can correct the evil?
R. That together with the Creator and we need to correct the Creator, how can there be evil if we are with the Creator, then we have nothing to correct?
39. S. (01:36:42) Question about failure, failure isn’t when I corrected or didn’t correct the state but that I didn’t ascribe it to the Creator?
R. Right, yes, this is something you still need to correct, the work should be such that There Is Nothing Else besides Him, and everything depends only on the Creator.
S. Is it right to every time to demand the Creator not to check the temperature, but every time to just hink that I have forty-one degrees?
R. No, you can’t lie to yourself, you can’t increase your temperature more than usual, you need to know exactly where you are.
40. S. (01:38:20) Let’s say we are at the meeting in the ten, what is it that we would do that would make it “all who add, subtract’”
R. We will feel that we are connected and that we have where to advance to.
41. S. (01:39:07) If we change the temperature into grams: If a person needs thirty grams of connection with the friends and the Creator thinks he’s lacking forty grams, can I relate to them that way that way, that I’m always lacking?
R. But then you don’t come to the revelation of the Creator, you don’t come to identify yourself with the Creator?
S. But I am always longing for more, I have thirty-eight and He wants me to be at forty?
R. I don’t think this is a good state because identifying yourself with the Creator means you feel Him, you understand Him and you, exchanging your emotion and knowledge, otherwise no there’s no connection.
S. You’re in intention but not in abilities?
R. No no, don’t look for excuses, use the example as it is.
43. S. (01:40:29) I thought about it a lot, you’re speaking about staying away from the evil, so does that mean that I constantly have to yearn to the point of connection between the friends? If I understand correctly, when you try and yearn to this point you understand that the evil is grabbing you more and more and it’s growing and chasing you, how to hate this evil, there are no forces to hate this evil?
R. Think only about the connection with the friends, not about the evil.
S. Here in the end of the article it is written that the answer, well that’s the point, if you always think about adhesion and connection with the friends?
R. Well, that’s not sufficient work yet for a person.
43. S. (01:42:17) We learned that the Creator is great, in control of everything, He did at all and everything, so the evil is actually a negative attitude to what we feel in our senses?
R. Yes.
S. So it turns out that if I don’t see the Creator behind everything, that is the evil, that I don’t believe that it’s the Creator behind everything?
R. Don’t feel.
S. So we have to ask for this sense to change?
R. Yes.
44. S. (01:43:19) We are trying to build the prayer in the ten and if we don’t really feel the evil, so our repentance has to be recognition of evil in the prayer?
R. If we don’t have yet the feeling of evil so what are we turning to the Creator with, and anyhow if we have an opportunity we’re turning to Him, we have to have a complete recognition of evil.
S. So how do we reach that, what can we add now in order to reach it and not wait more?
R. Don’t wait, you have to work on it, this is what you have to work on, to want connection very much and then you will see how much we are incapable.
45. S. (01:44:24) We see in the article that the serpent is a very complex system and smart, how can a person be cautious of that sin, that he won’t sin?
R. The main thing is to be the under the influence of the group, of the ten, and then it will guard him, when he is alone, there is no chance for him not to sin.
S. A person wanders around the world and sins, so how can the ten guard him that he will not sin?
R. That’s a problem, this is a problem.
S. So what do you do?
R. I don’t know where you’re hanging around and what’s going on there but you should try to be with your friends all the time, in your emotion, in your thought.
46. S. (01:45:42) We have a state in the ten for a few weeks already, we see that a few friends, some of them express it too, that they are just despaired and in a routine like you said without breaking the routine and part of them are disappearing. So what can we, the rest of the friends, understand from this, are we not in enough recognition of evil, what is the Creator trying to tell us especially about the friends that are expressing the weakness?
R. Until the connection between you is tight, truly that you will be connected to each other everyday and a few times a day, there’s nothing to talk about, nothing to talk about.