MONDAY: NETZACH-TIKKUN CHATZOT תקון חצות – LESSON WITH RAV MICHAEL LAITMAN
READING: between after midnight and sunrise of Monday
Rabash. Concerning Above Reason. 21 (1986)
Morning Lesson July 8, 2023
Transcription is made from simultaneous translation, which leaves a possibility for differences in the audio
Part 1:
Rabash. Article No. 21, 1986. Concerning Above Reason
1. Rav’s Introduction: Above reason is actually the entire spiritual world, the revelation of the Creator, the feeling of the upper force, the connection with him, everything that exists above the material world. In the material world where we exist we are still considered beasts, they all seemed as beasts; that it is what is written about us, this is what we all start from and all of our work in the first stage of our spiritual ascent is to rise from reason to the degree of faith above reason. This is what we need to aspire to. This ascent is called salvation. Exiting one world to another world, from the beastly corporeal world in which we are born and we need to rise to the spiritual world which means to acquire a new mind, a new emotion and to see the world, to feel it the way that it is operated by the upper force. This is what we need to discover to identify with the upper force, this is actually what the wisdom of Kabbalah teaches us. In that we will discover all of the forces of the Creator that he reveals to us and we will discover in that all of our future to wish we need to reach, to discover, to rise to, to connect with, to receive it and be filled by it.
This is actually our work; in the end all of humanity reaches that, sooner or later there is a plan for it and we want to go above this plan ahead of it. We received an opportunity desire truly a gift from above so that we have the drive for it but besides that, besides the drive we never the less also need to add to it, many forces to actually disconnect gradually from everything that we have in the material world and to try to connect with the spiritual force,s the force of bestow, the force of giving, the force of connection and this is what we engage in, in the relations between us that we develop in our groups; we want to reach that, to perform such actions that they will elevate us to a degree of above reason and this is how we will advance, actually this is the plan of our life, the purpose of our life, to reach the force of bestowal which is above the force of reception. There is a lot of materials about that and let’s hope that we will be able to understand it properly, to absorb it and to realize it within us. This is actually a small introduction to this topic of concerning above reason that Rabash wrote; actually we can say that he is the only one who writes about it in a way that is so open and fundamental that before him and still no one after him, no one touched it in a way that is so broad and so close to each and everyone. That’s it, is there any questions go ahead and ask and we will enter the article, good luck.
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2. S. (57:37) What does it mean to see the friend that he is working for the sake of the Creator if the intention is hidden?
R. To see the friend is working for the sake of the Creator, see meaning to see with your corporeal eyes that I see how much he invests.
S. In the beginning you said a new feeling includes the sensation of the intention of the friends or did I misunderstand?
R. I don’t know what purpose did I say that where was that?
S. The entry into spirituality, in the beginning gives us a new feeling and gives us the intention, the feeling of the intention of the friends?
R. Well, there is such a thing, yes.
3. S. (59:06) It is said that I have to see the friends above me within reason is it enough to see that the friends are above me in certain qualities or do I need to see them above me in all the spiritual qualities?
R. It is desirable to see them in all the spiritual qualities as well as the corporeal ones.
4. S. (59:33) How do we learn to see the friend’s merits within reason and what does it take for it?
R. We need to appreciate the friends above reason meaning even though you don’t see it and you disagree with me etc., nevertheless you see how much the Creator invests in him how much he the Creator invests in him, how much the Creator gives him, how much the Creator cares for him and wants him to be on the path; for this reason you love him and take care of him.
5. S. (01:00:10) Sometimes I can’t justify the friends above reason, but the reason immediately comes in with a great force and condemns, how can I overcome the reason at such a moment?
R. To be in joy that you succeeded in thinking about the friend that she is adhered to the Creator and she’s getting help from above.
6. S. (01:00:46) Maimonides speaks about acquiring much wisdom and knowledge. What do we need to understand in not for her sake?
R. That to expands our reason we can do it only by raising above it, above reason.
7. S. (01:01:16) What does it mean that David was hurting red-headed with fair eyes and handsome?
R. Well he was a red-headed. Of course these are all secrets. It’s not about the color but well he was the king of Israel meaning the entire infrastructure, foundation of people of Israel was founded by him. He suffered a lot. He put in a lot of force in order to hold on to his way as much as we understand it, it’s impossible to understand such a degree, but apparently this is how he was, this is why he is called the king of Israel, Malchut that reached the Keter.
8. S. (01:02:43) What is the spiritual quality?
R. The spiritual quality it’s bestowal and love.
S. And this is what I have to acquire from the friends this quality of bestowal?
R. No, you get that from above but in order to get it from above you need as much as you’re able to from within your life you need to get closer to the friends.
9. S. () According a person has to come to maimonides and come above reason in other words there are two manners of work here in mind I can somehow depict to myself I can in the intellect and not above it but how did I work in the feeling?
R. It is when the upper life comes and it changes your vessels and ones vessels begin to be in order to bestow.
S. So in the feeling I have to also come to be above reason?
R. In everything, yes in mind and in the feeling.
10. S. (01:03:21) I’m quoting “A person needs to come to Lishma”, meaning, to work in mind and heart, above reason In other words, there are two manners of work here, in mind I can somehow depict to myself, I take the intellect of the upper one and annul before it, but how do we work with it in the feeling?
R. It’s when the upper light comes and it changes your vessels and ones vessels begin to be in order to bestow already.
S. So in the feeling I have to also come to be above reason?
R. In everything yes, in the mind and in the feeling.
11. S. (01:04:24) In working above reason with the friends to see them as great the question is, if I come closer to the friend I see him within reason as lower than I am but if above reason I tried to come closer to him and I suddenly discover things that I see in certain things he’s better and this helps me see him as great, is this regarded as above reason?
R. Yes, your action is above reason because before that within your reason you saw him as below you and then you made an effort and then you saw that he’s above you.
S. So basically this effort to come closer to try to see each friend this way will help us, this work will help us see him as great above reason or not necessarily?
R. Necessarily you will see him as great and this will help you to get closer to the Creator. Yes
S. Now another question I have some confusion if you can help me: concerning seeing friends as great if I come closer to the friend but the friend doesn’t come to the morning lesson for example, on one hand I can still see him as great because I too had states when I couldn’t come and I wanted to and I was trying to but now I see the friend that he’s not coming for example so can I within reason so I might see him as inferior within reason but above reason I can’t see him as great, the question is how do I relate to it because here I always have cause usually we say that those who don’t come to lesson they’re like this and they”re like that etc.
R. In short, how to relate to the friends?
S. Yes, to the friend who is not coming to the lesson, how do I relate to him?
R. You need to care that he will come.
S. But concerning seeing him as greater than I am should I still do this work?
R. Yes, because if I were in his place I would also receive the burdening of the heart like him, yes a burdening of the heart just like him.
S. Okay, and concerning envy, he talked about envy. Envy is something that can really promote a person, advanced him and also sometimes envy is an unpleasant state that you cancel because it is a negative envy it is jealousy because of our ego doesn’t want to be pushed to work so it awakens envy in a different way. The question is, is there a way to influence the envy so it is envy that makes me really want to be like the Creator, like the friend very much like the friend?
R. You need to reach such an envy towards each and everyone.
S. How do I do this, do you have any advice?
R. To feel yourself and see how much you are lesser than them
S. So it is like in the beginning we said you come closer to him and then from there?
R. Yes.
12. S. (01:07:50) Initially a person should see his friend’s heart?
R. You need to or you don’t need to but how can you see it?
S. Well that’s it because here in the scrutiny about the Creator and Samuel initially Samuel couldn’t see David’s heart, so how do I work with the friends if I can’t see their hearts?
R. You need to accept them above reason, that they are all great they’re all corrected and I am truly delighted happy that I am next to them.
S. Yes, in scrutiny here he says that seeing the friends merits within reason is better?
R. If there are already such corrections then of course within reason is better but if not then above reason.
13. S. (01:09:13) To continue in that point it is said for a person looks into the eyes it’s good between friends but the Creator sees the heart meaning what concerns matter of the Creator is above reason, another person should not look according to what he sees but go above reason, so what’s the difference between the two?
R. Here it’s when a person sees the way that he sees, I don’t know exactly how to explain it. We see in the friends in our eyes and we need to raise them above reason and that is it. Again the question?
S. It says because a person looks to the eyes, this is good between men and men, between friends because we can go within reason or the Creator sees the heart meaning that which concerns matters of the Creator is above reason and the person should not look according to what his eyes see but go above reason, how do I come to see the friend the way the Creator sees the friend and not the way I think I see the friend?
R. How can you see the friend as the Creator sees him? Well, it’s truly impossible but nevertheless by justifying him completely, by justifying him completely, all of him.
14. S. (01:11:24) It is written here that King Solomon calls evil inclination enemy and it is written if your enemy is hungry feed him bread for he calls on his head what is he advising us here?
R. To relate in a good way in short.
15. S. (01:12:10) If we look at it sincerely everything is hidden on our path, the greatness of the Creator is hidden, the greatness of the friends is also hidden, even the recognition of evil is hidden, the only thing that is revealed is that everything is concealed. The fact that I don’t love the friends it is also revealed sometimes, there is something a little bit that we can hold on to, to have some strength?
R. The strength will come, the good feeling will come, it will all come but on the way when a person nevertheless does not quit and he continues and continues and continues, the Creator works on him with the small faint light each and every day, he promotes the person at one time it looks not so good to the person another time it doesn’t look to the person but this is how it is until it happens, I have nothing more that I can say here, nevertheless it’s only about patience. That’s the only thing that helps here, meaning there has to be support in the society so that the person continues and then after a few years it comes. I do not have any other words.
16. S. (01:14:01) In the article he divides between a person and his friend and the person and the Creator, it says that between friends it’s better if you come to a state that you see the greatness of the friends within reason but between the person and the Creator you always have to go above reason and then toward the end of the article it says if he does not feel good taste in the work he cannot observe the commandments of the Creator. If he doesn’t have a good taste in the work he cannot observe the Commandments of the Creator and then he says that you have to go above it, above this tastelessness. So if he has no taste, what gives him vitality in the work?
R. By going on without any taste but still he respects this matter, he respects it, he appreciates it, he is happy about it.
S. But isn’t he suffocated by having no taste?
R. But he doesn’t chase after the taste. He does not chase after the taste, he wants to simply be in the work of the Creator each and every day, like a slave.
17. S. (01:15:36) What is this work between a person and the Creator which is not through the friends?
R. Man’s work towards the Creator?
S. Which is not through the friends because he keeps making this distinction between a person working with the Creator and a person working with his friends?
R. We connect to the friends, so that we will have force between us, a connection, being drawn to spirituality, mutual help, mutual support and this is how we reach a state where finally the Creator helps us. This is actually our direction.
S. Okay, so it means that this thing of work between the person and the Creator is relevant only when he did what he has to do between the person and his friend and then he has this thing of?
R. Well the mitzvot, the commandments between person and his friends preside those that are between a person and the Creator.
S. In other words I constantly have to aspire to see the friends as great within reason and if I do it enough I may be able to begin to relate to the Creator the way I’m supposed to?
R. Yes.
S. So I get the flavor, the taste in the work with the friends because it’s within reason, there is flavor because it’s within reason and the work opposite the Creator or with the Creator has to go above reason because there there is no taste?
R. Above reason there’s also taste.
S. So what does it mean to work without taste as you explain to the friend?
R. Without taste of receiving.
S. And the taste is made of what?
R. From the desire to bestow, from faith above reason.
S. Every time I try to depict some flavor let’s say from the greatness of the Creator, from some great privilege it is to be on the path in the end it all ends up with a flavor within the will to receive even the greatness of the Creator at the end of the day there is flavor in the will to receive, so what flavor is it in bestowal as you said, what is this flavor?
R. We need to reach the Taamim, the flavors like TANTA, Taamim of TANTA and then we can talk about that but not the flavors you’re talking about when you say I tasted It’s sweet, sweet is good.
S. So we can say that flavors of bestowel we have no idea what it is we don’t understand it?
R. No, if you receive something from your friend and in it you received something bitter and then you worked on the connection with him and then in the same thing you felt sweet. It’s a sign that you’ve made a change in your vessels.
18. S. (01:19:07) If I see the friend is greater than I am within reason, what room do I have to care for him to give him a personal example?
R. That’s within reason, let’s say he is successful at business so what else can you see within reason?
S. I can see within reason that he is stronger than I am in spiritual work
R. In spiritual work you can see it within reason.
S. Let’s say he comes to lesson early and he does everything the teacher tells him?
R. That is still within reason.
S. In other words my concerns for the friends and the example I have to give him, how unrelated to, how greater than I am I see him?
R. Yes.
19. S. (01:20:08) You said to the friend that work between a person is, the friend comes before a person and the Creator. He writes that he writes, let us see the friends merits and not their faults, so the change in order to see the friends as great he asks for the Creator from it.
R. Yes, of course, who is he receiving from?
S. So first he has to work with the Creator or first with the friends?
R. But how does he come to this request?
S. He can see that he can’t see the friend’s merits so he turns to the Creator to make a change in his heart so he sees the friends as great. So he works with the Creator before he works with the friends because before that he only knows what he has, the whole article is like you have to be like this and like that but its only for us to see that we are not. Kabbalists are giving you an advice, you have to see, you have to check with yourself, you see that you’re not so, you turn to the Creator to change your heart. So it turns out your working with the Creator first not with the friends?
R. No, but you have seen, you have checked, you have come closer and you see that in your eyes they are down, otherwise why do you turn to the Creator?
S. To change you so you can connect to them and through them to him?
R. Well…
S. But you already turn to him, I’ll tell you, I look at the way we work, I can divide myself in the friends into periods when a person is entirely immersed in the friends and there are times where the person doesn’t see the friends at all, he sees only Rav and Rabash and the Creator, a different track. He’s less interested in what is happening in the society. You can see you can see that in each person and in some friends have a tendency to this or a tendency to that. How can we connect, is there even a tendency that can change in a person?
R. Everything has to change, the relation to the friends, the relation to the Creator, relation to himself, yes.
S. From where can such a change come?
R. The light that reforms, what can I tell you. Isn’t it clear what changes us?
S. We have been reading these articles from many years, I see on myself that I can be impressed by the article but in half an hour it is all gone it’s like you had a good shower and that’s all gone.
R. It takes a minute so what’s next?
S. What’s next?
R. Keep on going keep on going whatever happens, what are you talking about. Keep on expecting changes, praying to the Creator, coming closer to the friends, learning, preparing yourself to some lesson, what are you asking me? Our work is a daily work, nothing to do. Nothing to do, I also can’t imagine I don’t imagine different kind of life for myself but in general, look, nothing to add, just dedication, just dedication.
20. S. (01:24:35) If I see that the friends are in bestowal, in the force of bestowal and they’re actually bestowing the great and I understand that bestowal is the true reality this is what we have to reach but I don’t have the power to bestow, I am a beast and the friends are great and they’re in bestowal and I am just a beast, so then what?
R. Then what, say thank you to the Creator that he shows you your friends in such a state, you don’t know their true state but what you see is what the Creator shows you. the Creator wants you to see them this way.
S. Okay, one day to the next day they’re greater, more in bestowal and I am more of a beast, so how do we even?
R. Keep on as an ox to the load and a donkey to the burden. Keep on until one day it will turn around, nothing to do about it. That is how the Creator plays with the person, I am willing to keep on going, like a soldier. What is not understood here?
21. S. (01:26:23) This article is so broad that it is very hard to contain it and I want to ask something about within reason and above reason in relation to the friends. On the one hand if I understood correctly, he explains that it is better to have a relation to the friends which is within reason, this is better. On the other hand if a person does not succeed in seeing the friends within reason but they’re great then he needs to see it above reason. So what is our aspiration in relation to the friends to see?
R. To always be able to learn from them to get stronger through them to even bend to them.
S. If so it turns out that at a certain stage the person will not be able to see the friends greater than himself and he will have to go above reason and think that they are greater than him. He will have to bring it into within reason then once again he will not be able to see them is great and again it’s some kind of a….?
R. It’s what the Creator does in degrees.
S. Like diffusion? We constantly move it from within reason to above reason?
R. We just need to rise above to the next degree.
S. But he continuous, it is not a one time thing?
R. Until the end of correction.
22. S. (01:28:08) What is the difference between chasing after the taste and chasing after a deficiency in terms of the work, the way you work?
R. A deficiency for what?
S. A deficiency to bestow.
R. What’s the difference between chasing after the labour which is in order to receive.
S. We perform any actions, actions that we do all the time so I come out of the desire to feel taste or come out of the desire to receive a deficiency. How do we pay attention to, what do I come every action out of?
R. You haven’t yet scrutinized your question yet.
S. Just chasing after the case that comes automatically, I don’t even know the truth.
R. That’s not you doing that’s the flavor doing it.
S. But I want to be in that I want to come and have a….
R. So you should decide enough to the decision you’ll do according to your decision.
S. A person chasing after the lack, how does the person do it?
R. That’s how the person does it usually, that’s how the people do it usually. Running after the deficiency but the deficiency leads him like a dog searching.
S. If he doesn’t have a deficiency what does he do then?
R. If he doesn’t have a deficiency it’s a problem. He has to find the deficiency otherwise he has nothing to live for.
S. Right, so what does he do? I don’t have it?
R. What you do? You take some medicine.
S. How, where, from what?
R. From anything in life you can even go to a doctor for that. A person who has no deficiency is a poor man he has nothing to live for, he takes a sleeping pill.
S. He comes to the society like everyone else but he doesn’t get a deficiency so what should he do? Everybody comes to the society, some people give the deficiency.
R. He’s not Incorporated with the friends, he doesn’t even have envy for them.
S. So what does he do?
R. He has to be more Incorporated with them, to be more with them.
S. So he should have a deficiency to that?
R. Yes, he can take their deficiency. One should ask his friends, exactly there.
S. And then he will get it?
R. If he wants it he will get it.
23. S. (01:31:04) Just to continue the friend’s question, all of us here pretty much do, seemingly, what we need to do, theoretically, then you told the friend “when the time will come, the time will come when this inversion will happen”. So my question about this moment, about this inversion, is it a continuous thing that happens over some time or does it happen in the moment, how does it happen?
R. According to the desire of the upper one, it all depends on the root of the soul; some people attain quickly the force of bestowal, some slowly, it is all about the exersion and the prayer.
S. But the inversion itself, does it happen in a second, suddenly you enter a new dimension, or happens slowly?
R. I can’t say, I can’t say.
24. S. (01:32:32) To continue what we talked about with the friend, we said it’s like a diffusion, it’s a process, it takes above reason to within reason and once again it’s like diffusion, it is a constant process of rising on the spiritual degree from degree to degree. This is what how one rises above reason, he raises from above reason, he puts it into within reason then he has to go above reason again. My question is, actually, when he brings that feeling from above reason to within reason, when he sees friends as great then it enteres into within reason, then he has to search again for above reason. What is considered the ascent in the degree, both stages one and two, or when the above reason enters within reason then rises a degree, when receiving the feeling raises him a degree or rising after he receives the feeling he has to annul again, what is consider the ascent, rising up in the degree?
R. The first one you said.
S. What did it say before?
R. When you receive the fulfillment, it’s considered to rise a degree.
S. When he shifts it from above reason to within reason, so it turns out that there’s something that sounds like a contradiction in terms eventhough it’s not. Actually when he enters the corporeality, when he receives the feeling into the vessels, then he rises into sprituality?
R. You can keep with youre explanations with yourself.
25. S. (01:33:16) On one hand, Rabash writes that it’s better to see the friends as great within reason but when the body resists, then you have to work above reason, I feel like the reason the Rabash writes to us above, is higher, it’s the result of above reason.
R. Right.
S. It’s not the reason that I see him.
R. You are correct!
S. Is that how it is?
R. Right, well done, he said it right.
26. S. (01:35:22) I might know what reason is, I might even know what below reason is, I have no idea what above reason is, to me it sounds like one pulling himself out of the swamp, how can a person reach above reason?
R. I agree with you.
S. So how can person reach above reason, I hear Rabash in many articles write this and I hear the friends saying, “we’re going above reason”?
R. You can’t pull.
S. I don’t think you can pull like that.
R. Because you don’t have it.
S. Right.
R. For that you need to do efforts, make efforts, efforts, and then you start feeling that this may be, this can happen; and more efforts, efforts, efforts, and then you do receive.
S. That’s exactly, without the Creator lifting me above reason there’s no chance?
R. Of course.
27. S. (01:37:01) If I can try to summarize, if I may, he says “between one and his friends”, he gives two things here: If he sees in reason that the friends are greaterthen by that he can adapt their qualities, he can get their qualities and by that he advances, he gets qualities of bestowal. But if he sees they’re not great in reason and he wants them to behave like he thinks they should then by going above reason.
R. What above reason?
S. In their efforts?
R. He wants them to behave like him?
S. Yes, that’s what he writes, I wrote it down, one second: “If he doesn’t see the friends as great but he is great and he thinks they should work how he thinks, then the body shows him the lowliness of the friends. But then if he believes that without a society there isn’t love of the Creator”, and that there’s this springboard, even that intellectual knowledge without feeling it, that something. “Then according to his faith he can then get inspiration and strengthening from the society.”
R. Yes.
S. So in both cases, if he doesn’t have the emotional above reason, even if he knows intellectually that that’s only how he can receive it.
R. Yes.
S. So Rabash gives us an opportunity to advance like this and also like that, we always have these two forms to advance with to get forces of bestow?
R. The main thing is to rise above oneself, yes?
S. If I understood correctly in the matter between the person and the Creator, there, He gives us only one option, only above reason, and I think that when the body resists, meaning the evil inclination begins to show him that working above reason isn’t for him and he resists it, meaning doesn’t come actually to him or well. So then there’s another state where the body gives him good excuses, then the body says “yes, you should work above reason”. It’s like the body is tricking him, telling him “come on receive now and I will give you the light, the pleasure of receiving work in above reason”, and also here he has to get it as some kind of testimonial and not as the foundation. So in other words, between one and the Creator it’s only in faith above reason, you have to constantly search for that?
R. In short, look for it.
S. I’m trying to scrutinize it.
R. It’s okay, you are on the way, you are on the way.
28. S. (01:40:28) So you’re saying I need to constantly search how I need to clothe my work above reason?
R. Yes.
S. All the time, all along the path and only when I get some kind of Illumination then I can get some kind of equivalent, so what is this action that I do that I can understand that I’m advancing correctly in the path?
R. It’s with the respect to the friends you examine it.
S. What does it mean that I see it in a true way?
R. What does it mean “within reason”, the real way?
S. That’s what I’m asking, that I’m searching how to clothe my work and see it constantly above reason, as great, as better than I am. I come as zero and annul towards the friends, how do I actually make this equivalence in the work?
R. What is the comparison between what and what?
S. Between working above reason and working correctly on the path?
R. But with whom do you compare it?
S. The friends.
R. With the friends together you get this feeling, this diagnosis, and that’s how you advance.
29. S. (01:42:12) Rabash summarizes at the end and he says that “the person needs to accept the burden of Heaven without any condition and having to work above reason is not because the Creator cannot give us reason rather we must believe it’s all to our benefit. It turns out that between the person and the Creator you should try to keep it above reason, and if he receives some reason, he should do as mentioned above.” All of our work is needing to believe.
R. Yes.
S. It is all for our benefit, that everything we receive is for our own benefit, so all this article, the advice is eventually we need to believe that it is for our benefit?
R. For our benefit.
S. So simple question ishow do we do it every single moment?
R. With the help of the friends, with the help of the friends you see how they advance like you, you’re heading towards the same goal, you’re supporting each other, giving examples to each other, and that is how you advance.
30. S. (01:44:09) To continue the very interesting scrutiny, many times I see the friends as great and if I look at the whole world Kli, there are many, many friends, great friends, and also in Petach Tikva and Ashkelon and all those friends, very great. As discussed, this could be a result, could be a result, let’s say, of working in faith of a reason, but many times maybe I didn’t work in faith above reason but I also see them as great within reason. What is the continuation of the work, is that a continuing faith above reason, so what does it mean ‘working in faith above reason again’, when I already see the friends as great?
R. In truth there is no place here to put them above reason, I only connect to them and I work together with them; I build a higher vessel above reason and this is how we come closer to the Creator.
S. So it’s actually continuing the work of faith above reason to make the friends even greater?
R. Yes, I need to try to elevate them even higher than what is seems to me.
31. S. (01:46:07) In faith above reason, is that, is it a habit to get into working in the group, like one flow, like the single flow in life?
R. Yes, but not only that, this also but not only that.
32. S. (01:46:42) What is this force of faith above reason, which I see the greatness of the friends, the greatness of the Creator, is it a spiritual force or some imagination?
R. Faith above reason is the force of bestowal, it’s very simple, it’s a force of bestowal, it’s nature of the Creator and the nature of the created being is the force of reception. And we want to shift from the force of reception to the force of bestowal to be in the control of the force of bestow, all-in-all,that’s all that we want.
S. The force of bestowal it’s clear that it’s some kind of force where Rabash gives some advice here that you need to see the friends above reason?
R. Depicting the friends to be greater than us.
S. Okay but there is the force of bestowal and there is my description towards the friends, that they’re higher, what is the relation between the two?
R. When I am on the path I start feeling my friends to be greater and greater, that’s how it happens, you need to wait some time then you will see that the truth is that you will see the friends to be greater, more feeling, more understanding, stronger.
S. Why is that called the force of bestow to see the friends that way?
R. Because I associate more force of bestowal to them than what I have.
33. S. (01:48:54) What does it mean “to do the work with the whole of man’s heart and soul”?
R. With all the forces, desires, thoughts that we have, each and every moment I have to recruit them in the way I work with my whole self.
S. If we work with faith about reason this always some evil that we have to work on then what does it mean “with all one’s heart” because it needs to be.
R. It doesn’t have to be any reason included here, don’t search for the evil, look to what extent you can be attached to your friends and then rise together with them to the Creator, that’s it, find that.
34. S. (01:50:14) In the article there’s a lot of contradictions, it’s like the state that I’m scrutinizing good deeds and when I go into faith above reason, there’s some kind of summary of my calculation that’s also within reason. The good deeds that I do that help me scrutinize my state, they illuminate on my evil inclination, it’s not really clear the force of bestowal at that same moment, where does it come from? From what, from doing scrutinies, myself, in my reason, being in the left line or is it as the result of detaching and the force of bestowal growing, the desire not to receive for myself?
R. It is like we go up a ladder, left right, left right, we always climb once on the left then on the right, etc. and that’s the way we do it, it is the same here. We need to understand that it is impossible to make some action without involving the force against it, only this way do we climb and rise.
35. S. (01:52:05) What is my work if I see two of my friends conflicted, in some conflict?
R. The conflict must be to the point so that each one understands the path, the degree, the next degree in a different way, and that’s why we should scrutinize it because through that we can correct each other. And that’s why we have to scrutinize, I have nothing to say, scrutinizing who is right or is not right, maybe not to scrutinize who is right or wrong, but talk about what we should do in this case or in that case, even more distance than the personal form, each and everyone but ultimately these scrutinies are in order to advance.
36. S. (01:53:22) Does faith about recent exists in this world and how can we keep it?
R. In our world, nothing exists except for the will to receive which is egoistic and small, all the rest exist in the spiritual world but the spiritual world also exists for those who are in their body in this world but in their spirit in the spiritual world, is this clear?
S. I could be working above reason without the reason? Not sure
R. This question is, well I will answer it in a simple way, above reason is only possible to come to if you stand within your reason and then you stand, you elevate yourself to be above reason, that’s how you do it every time. Here there are few kinds of works, with the society, with oneself, we will learn.
37. S. (01:55:10) What does it mean for a person to find meaning in the work?
R. It means that bit by bit he is building a path and a way to reach the purpose of life. That’s what the wisdom of Kabbalah gives him, how to find the purpose of life. That’s why the wisdom of Kabbalah is being revealed in our time. Along with all of us wanting to attain the purpose of life and seeing that it’s not possible to attain it in a simple way that’s how we develop, that’s the characteristic of our time.
38. S. (01:56:22) In the current moment there is such a state where there are many scrutinies in me. Sometimes the answer you get is from the teacher or from a different question and the answer is suitable. How to relate to such an answer?
R. Relate to it as an answer.
39. S. (01:56:53) Is faith about reason reaching a state that the force that activates you is outside of yourself?
R. Yes.
S. So if you see your friends within reason as great and that motivates you that’s better than developing a force that activates you outside of your self-love?
R. You need both, one has to dress on the other.
40. S. (01:57:25) What is King Solomon is trying to tell us when he referred to the evil inclination as the enemy? Your enemy is angry, hungry. How can I keep him from burning your house? There’s an analogy that if your enemies are angry you’ll feed them, can you explain this?
R. No, this is still difficult, we’ll come to this but it’s very hard, one day we’ll interpret it. I’m happy that they want to know this but for the time being it’s too hard to explain this, we’ll learn this.
41. S. (01:58:43) He writes here that there are qualities that you get from the parents and there are qualities that you get from the society. So the same qualities that he gets from the society like envy is that part of the ego that will only disappear in the spiritual world?
R. No, envy will never disappear otherwise we won’t have the force to advance. Only through envy do we advance. Envy, lust and honor, this is what brings a person from one world to another.
S. A built-in part of the ego?
R. It’s the main part of the ego.
42. S. (01:59:44) The scrutiny on the ten regarding working in connection during the lesson. Recently in the ten we started also mentioning the friends that didn’t participate during preparation and there was a discussion in the ten whether it was correct for our connection to focus only on the friends that are in the lesson or also think about the friends who are not in the lesson?
R. During the lesson all I think about is the lesson. That what I now hear in the lesson I receive directly from the Creator and I need to perceive it, to absorb it with my heart and soul to connect to it this way and only out of that will I have an advance towards the goal that’s it. I don’t think during the lesson instead of all kind of other things, coming or not coming to the lesson, this way or that way, that’s not good; only to completely devote myself to the lesson.
43. S. (02:01:34) When a person gets certain illumination from above and the path shines and there’s this taste of the path, what does it mean that he tastes this illumination as some kind of testimony and it doesn’t become a foundation?
R. Because he hears the article, he gets some illumination from the discussion, from the atmosphere and what’s being passed onto him he feels he gets it through all the friends. As if the light from above, the Creator wants to give to him so he gives to him through all the friends. So for him there’s something to work with with this illumination, to connect, to try to fill himself, to connect with the friends and with the friends together rise to the source.
S. But when there is taste in the work how do these flavors that he gets from the work from the path transfer him? How does he only take this, being impressed by it but not taking it as the foundation? What does it mean to take it above reason, to take it as this testimony, this taste that I now receive?
R. Why did he receive it, what did he receive it for?
S. To rise but practically how do I do it? Do I say okay, what I feel now that’s a testimony or what?
R. Yes, yes. Now discuss this between yourselves.
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44. R. (02:06:39) I don’t think we’re going to have time today for something else but I have a big debt for the women, surely they have many questions. Lately I didn’t answer all their questions so please, where are they?
45. S. (02:07:19) What is the relationship between the greatness of the Creator and faith?
R. According to the size of the faith we feel the greatness of the Creator. She has this male brain.
46. S. (02:08:11) How to examine myself in relation to my friends, where I am in faith above reason or below reason?
R. In the meantime in faith below reason, our faith depends only on the reason.
S. Meaning in the meantime we can’t..
R. We should aspire for that, we’ll come to that each one according to his efforts.
47. S. (02:08:56) We learned that a desire of one person is not enough. In order to reach the revelation of the Creator that’s why we need the group in order to add the desires of the friends. But in order to add them I need to see them as greater than me otherwise I won’t be able to take or learn anything from them. Can we understand the greatness of the friends within reason and only then can we add their desires to ours or can I add their desires when I see the greatness above reason as well?
R. We need to invest efforts and then the way it works out, I can’t explain to you what you can do or can’t.
48. S. (02:09:56) NO TRANSLATION
R. It will become lightness. You’ll feel as if you’re tied to a balloon raising you upwards, upwards instead of the heaviness.
49. S. (02:10:45) This negative envy, is this also sent from the Creator or is that only through the friends?
R. The Creator is sending everything to us but He’s sending it for us to advance. He’s Illuminating more on us and in this light that goes through the system Kedusha and Klipa there are all kind of systems there that are parallel. And also the light that shifts goes through all the systems and comes to us shines to us, to each and everyone according to how much we’re connected to each other. Some we may receive directly from the Creator, through Him, from above downwards, some we get through the friends. That’s how we advance. We have to know how to answer correctly to all these awakenings that come to us only from the Creator.
50. S. (02:12:13) What room is there for scrutinies in the ten about our state? During these scrutinies should we ask to see the ten in perfection, in a state of wholeness?
R. Yes, the scrutiny has to be only in the group.
S. But when we scrutinize there is criticism regarding our state. During that do we need to see above reason that the ten is in a state of perfection?
R. Yes.
S. Is the order of the work, seeing the friends deficits within reason, praying to see their merrits and then the Creator enables us to see them as great within reason? Then again the courseness grows, you see them as smaller again and again we pray to see them above reason?
R. Correct.
51. S. (02:13:38) What actions will help us rise about reason?
R. Connection between the friends.
52. S. (02:14:01) You answered the friend that we need to pray and it will be easier for us to work but when I pray I see where I am and I only want to escape this state. How to transition from that state and move forward?
R. We need to try to stay in the place and advance forward.
S. Where do we get the strength from?
53. S. (02:14:47) In the article he mentions that we need to go above reason and within reason is more important than going above. What does he mean by that?
R. I don’t remember what this is about. Oh, to see the friend within reason, yes that’s more important than seeing him above reason, yes.
S. Why is it greater seeing in reason?
R. It’s more difficult, it’s more corrected.
54. S. (02:15:49) This matter of goig above reason, how is this an individual process, how is this supposed to help humanity?
R. Each and everyone draws a path, light from the Creator through all the souls up to Him, all the souls, the light can’t reach some address if it’s not going through all the souls that exist in the spiritual world. And only that does it come to the person that called for it, that’s why it’s important for us that each and everyone will try to connect to others and draw the light, and this is how to get there we come to the great light called, Messiah, Moshiach.
55. S. (02:17:09) It’s been said that “the burden of Heaven it has to be in everything that you have and about reason” even if it takes your soul, so to speak. How to help a friend acquire the force above reason, how to feel strength if a friend doesn’t have any ability to work about reasoning the sake of the Creator?
R. You should take him with you to try to draw both him and yourself from the Creator; together you can do it, together with the friend.
56. S. (02:18:21) How is when we see the friends as great and we see them even greater in the path, how can that be?
R. I will tell you, I appreciate the student according to the years, how many years has he been in the path’ basically it doesn’t depend a lot about us in spirituality, not a lot depends on us in spirituality. The root of our soul is something that the Creator organized, the root, and also everything we go through, that’s all organized by the Creator, and the society we are in is something He organized, what is there for us? Only to be more and more adn more, each and everyone, each and every moment to keep on going, that’s how you succeed. The one who keeps on going is the one who succeeds, nothing more, it is not about brains or the emotion to have a big soul or a big brain, no. Only the one who does not let go and keeps on, that’s why let’s continue and we will succeed.
57. S. (02:20:09) What characterizes the intention of about reason so not everything about reason, what is the characteristic that the action is specifically above reason?
R. Above reason means that it goes against the will to receive.
58. S. (02:20:52) Only in above reason can one attain connection?
R. Yes.
59. S. (02:21:19) My question is about recognition of evil: I have a shame of the evil about the evil I have in me, maybe others are that way, too. And this shame prevents me from seeing the evil within me, should we discuss this in the ten, maybe write about it?
R. That’s how every person is built, that’s why he cannot see they will in him because he doesn’t want it, it doesn’t feel good to him, he’s ashamed etc. A person, we say “a person is close to himself”, so there’s nothing to do about it, we’ll keep on going continue and soon we’ll see that you open your heart before everyone not being ashamed and everything will be okay.
S. So there’s no roome to speak of this in the ten?
R. No, no, no, there’s no room for that, in the meantime just listen and keep going
60. S. (02:22:20) What’s the difference between feeling the greatness of the Creator and faith about reason?
R. Faith about reason is the foundation upon which we walk, all the time in faith about reason, it’s like moving from one degree to another, what was the other question she asked?
S. The feeling of the greatness of the Creator is essential for us in ordr to build these degrees.
R. Each one has an individual feeling.
S. In the emotion?
R. Also in the emotion.
61. S. (02:23:34) You said that the scrutiny is done in the group so what feeling do we need to reach as a result of this scrutiny, what group sensation?
R. That we are all in one heart, in one desire.
62. S. (02:24:10) Did I understand correctly, is this transition from the left line to the right line, is this form of transition, is that actually above reason?
R. Faith about reason is rising to that next degree from the previous one, the previous degree is reason and the next faith where faith becomes the next reason from which we can rise to the degree in the next, to the faith in the next degree.
S. NO TRANSLATION
R. No, what you said is completely wrong and I recommend not to stop the translator in the middle of the sentence.
63. S. (02:25:28) Why is not faith above reason not permanent, why do we sometimes see the friends as great and sometimes within reason, can we reach a state of faith above reason which is constant?
R. No, in the meantime we can’t but later we will be able to, I’m very happy that you feel them sometimes this way, sometimes that way, it is a sign of work in advancement, it’s very nice dear one!
64. S. (02:26:28) Let’s say I see the friend as great in my eyes, they’re advancing, they understand a lot, but I’m not inspired by it, is that already considered to see them as great in reason?
R. That’s your pride standing on your own way.
S. Right, so that’s not considered in reason?
R. No
S. I need to pray?
R. Yes.