TUESDAY PRAYER: KETER-TIKKUN CHATZOT תקון חצות – LESSON WITH RAV MICHAEL LAITMAN
READING: BETWEEN AFTER MIDNIGHT AND DAWN TUESDAY
Zohar for All. Introduction of The Book of Zohar. On the Night of the Bride
Morning Lesson January 29, 2023 Transcription
Transcription is made from simultaneous translation which leaves a possibility for differences in the audio
Part 1:
Zohar for All. “Introduction of The Book of Zohar”. On the Night of the Bride. #141
Reading 141 (00:33)
1. R. (08:30) This means that everything was already created, all the states from the beginning to the end of creation through each and everyone and for all of us, in all the states. So only in respect to us do we have to learn how to collect them together and put them on ourselves. But it’s not that there is something that we need to decide and then determine through our decisions how certain things will happen, that’s not taken into account. What’s taken into account is only the first and last form and that these two forms actually come together.
Reading on (09:30)
2. S. (10:32) In practical life there are many words that we yearn to hear, what words are we yearning to hear? By words maybe he means matters?
R. He means that everything we have to go through already exists in the upper reality and there’s no doubts there. We all arrive at the final correction and we all go there gradually in a path that is pre-planned.
3. S. (11:54) We learn that everything is determined in advance. How does our corporeal life depend on this registration, are there several registrations?
R. Our corporeal life only has to awaken us up to spiritual actions, to correction and connection as fast as we can get there, as fast as we can get to the final correction, the final connection in the correct way.
4. S. (12:41) I heard the reader mention Adam HaRishon and Moses. I thought that Adam HaRishon is everyone, all the created beings so what is the connection between Adam and Moses?
R. Adam HaRishon is the form of all created beings together, all the souls as one.
S. So how do we have Moses, is this another person, another created being?
R. Don’t mix these things together. Adam HaRishon is the form of the single soul that undergoes shattering and then corrections, and Moses is one part of that soul.
5. S. (13:48) Can it be said that in the end all of our corporeal and spiritual life are simply one big coupling?
R. It is possible to say that, afterwards it all does come together into one big Zivug, coupling but in the meantime we are in particular couplings or particular scrutinies.
6. S. (14:26) It is written here that when the lord rejoices to multiply you so he will delight to destroy you. What does that mean?
R. It means that the Creator in all ways will have to work within us until He brings us to the final correction but He has to bring us to the final form. The end result is in the initial thought, we already exist in the final correction in potential we just have to come to feel it in practice.
S. But it says here in relation to what is written, if you disconnect from the Creator then it happens how do we not disconnect from the Creator, how do we not allow such things to happen?
R. This is through connecting to the friends, there is nothing else. Where do we realize our measure of faith, our measure of bestowal? Only by our connection in the group.
S. Bestowal of the Creator can be so tough that it comes up to the point of destruction?
R. It depends on how we talk about destruction but we already saw in a corporeal sense how negative actions can be because there is None Else Besides Him. Look what happened with the people of Israel and other nations in Vietnam or India or the second world war, the Holocaust. The Creator makes a calculation only towards His final purpose and if He doesn’t see any good forms then He uses whatever forms that can bring us to realize the purpose of creation.
Reading on (17:12)
7. S. (19:36) In the article it says that from there the Creator showed them to Moses and to all who are worthy of it. So who is worthy of it and how do we come to a state where we are worthy of it?
R. Being worthy means that we already understand that the correction happens in connection between everyone and this is what we have to be drawn to, whereas before that it was unclear and unknown to them.
8. S. (20:34) As much as I understand, we have no choice to come to the final correction or not to come to the final correction and the Creator does not give us any option.
R. Right, we don’t have a choice in that.
S. But my question is that in this process how can I be a partner with Him? How can I be with Him in this process in a way that I will give joy to Him? When I try to open my heart I see that I don’t even have a desire to give joy to the Creator, what can I do?
R. Because you haven’t reached these levels yet where you see how you’re in a state where your will to receive is dead, and you are separating from it and you already belong to the will to bestow more and more. And that really gives you joy and you better and better understand the paths the Creator is putting you through, those prior horrible states and how He now takes you to even worse states. But you, since you’ve been through all those preparations you already understand these are not worse or horrible things but it just appeared to you in that way in your will to receive. And now when you correct your desires then they appear to you as good stages where you’re drawn to something good, and this is how you advance. We have to understand that these stages are stages of correction of the vessels meaning that our vessels, just like you had eyes and you did not see, now you receive new eyes; they have ears and hear not but now you get new ears. Meaning you begin to see the world in a different way and that’s opposite to what you had before, as it says ‘I saw an upside down world’.
S. Sometimes we perceive reality through the clothing of faith and sometimes when we don’t have this faith we have a completely different reality. So in this dynamic state sometimes I feel that I am working in a foggy forest which is dark, where I cannot see anything and some voice is telling me that I am with you but you are looking back, looking right and left and you see nothing. How can I get this confidence, how can I overcome this fear or how can I have a hope that everything will be okay?
R. No, you don’t need to have confidence or hope that everything will end well and nicely because that just takes away from your attitude to the Creator. Meaning that you treat the Creator well only if you see a good future in your egoistic vessels. How then can you be in vessels of faith, in vessels of bestowal where you are devoted to Him, you are drawn to Him, you adhere to Him? So all of that is on top of all the opposite states. Meaning when you’re given everything and you adhere to the Creator then you adhere to Him from your vessels of reception. I have everything, the Creator is good that does good. He brings me whatever I want and I hold on to Him like a baby holds onto it’s mother and doesn’t want to detach from it’s mother at all because he feels that this is his entire source of life and vitality. No, that’s not how we can advance to the quality of bestowal. Therefore we have to acquire here the quality of bestowal and the according to the conditions that the Creator shines to us through the darkness and despite the darkness we adhere to Him and transform the darkness to light and the bitter to sweet and this is how we come to adhesion with Him from opposite states of the will to receive.
S. So I have to be grateful for every opportunity of the darkness because the darkness is the opportunity to turn to the Creator?
R. Correct, of course, you have to reach a state where the light and darkness that you feel in your vessels of reception, that this does not influence you. It says that the darkness will shine as light and there is no difference between those two states. That means that you transcend your will to receive and whatever you have doesn’t matter as long as you are in adhesion with the Creator on top of each and every state and this means that you emerge from your vessels of reception and you have no connection with the will to receive. These are exercises that we need to go through under the guidance of the Creator. Think about how we do this, we all have to go through that. Understood? Try to start going through these things in a clear and detailed manner and whatever you don’t understand turn to me and I’ll explain more.
9. S. (28:59) Help us understand, in the text it says ‘in eternity there is no order of times as it is in this world’. How does this exactly work out in our world because in our world it requires a certain time to develop and approach the Creator.
R. Indeed there are things here that are difficult to explain, but understand that if we’re talking about Ein Sof, infinity, about relating everything to a single a root, then that root has no past, present and future and there’s also no good and evil there, and there are no discernments that come from our world. All of it can only, we can only use the word Dvekut, adhesion, to refer to that state.
S. It’s still a little difficult to understand it because in the spiritual world there’s a beginning and end as it says in the Torah, this is one, and in our world, how do we grasp it?
R. Don’t grasp it, don’t try to turn it in a way that you want to grasp it into your feelings and your current intellect, what’s written there. It’s written about and it discusses the spiritual states and you are trying to translate that into corporeal states, and you’re not going to be successful in that. You need to wait until these vessels will form in us, spiritual vessels and then we can really understand it in the right way.
10. S. (31:22) How should we engage with the Zohar and what should we do in our ten in order to awaken the spiritual actions?
R. Reading together, discussing it together, studying together and trying to depict to ourselves how we are advancing towards what the book of Zohar writes, very simple. Use the book as a guide.
11. S. (32:34) Every day after lessons and meetings and dissemination, I listen to lessons from 10 years ago or less and it feels more that it is closer or clearer than what I hear now. So the question is, is it going to take us that many years to grasp what you’re telling us now or are times getting shorter?
R. No these aren’t times, these are states. We are now going through some states that weren’t there before and from the state of today when you start hearing or listening to previous states then it seems to you that it was simpler, clearer, closer. I think that we have to transition, I think this is a special time where we are transitioning, I think another month and a half, 2 months and we will rise to a new level.
S. Together, thank you.
Reading on (34:02) “It tells us so we will not err..”
12. R. (37:51) This means that those who long for corrections for the Creator, connection, that they have some preparation for correction, they are called Yashar El, straight to the Creator, Israel and they are drawn to corrections. But after they connect to a single system they then attract after them all the rest of the people and by that everyone also joins the action of correction. Of course in different forms, not the same kind of corrections as the first ones, as those called Israel, straight to the Creator, those who have an inclination towards that but in other forms, more passive forms. But everyone, everyone ultimately will understand there is no other choice on one hand and on the other hand this is the purpose of their existence. And as it says this light, this knowing begins to spread throughout the entire world and everyone begins to understand and feel the same light, the same goal across the entire planet until we come to knowing the Creator in full by everyone.
13. S. (39:46) Is there a connection between revealing our spiritual senses and the ability to justify the Creator?
R. Of course there is a connection between our qualities and our abilities and our conditions in how much we can understand and be grateful or assist. But we’ll do it nevertheless whether it’s in a good way or in a bad way, it doesn’t matter. The Creator will ultimately realize His plan and we just have to try to understand this plan and feel this plan and realize it as much as we can in our vessels. To the point that we and not the Creator who is pushing us to correction but rather that we turn to Him and ask Him to pull us, to push us towards the final correction in whatever ways He can.
14. S. (41:42) Can you explain what is the great coupling in the article?
R. The level of the great coupling we learn elsewhere too is that the light of Yechida comes which connects all the lights and all the vessels together and then makes a coupling of the end of correction on them.
15. S. (42:34) When you said that in a month and a half or 2 months we will rise to a new degree, what is our responsibility to see that it happens?
R. To be as ready for it as possible, to connect, unite, support each other, everyone for everyone. To feel it all of us, all over the world that we are uniting more and more internally between us, and this is what’s important to us.
S. Should we see the congress as a critical instrument for this?
R. Yes, I think the congress will be the point where we want to reach the maximum possible connection that we can achieve in our situation, in our state. And of course we don’t reach the end of correction or the end of the way but still we are entering such forms of connection between us that are becoming something that we understand and feel that it is already truly at the spiritual operations being scrutinized between us. And we are in them, women and men in the connection between us that begins to be formulated, to be established in such a way that the upper light can fill it and bring us the sensation of the Creator. That He is in us from the very beginning, Nefesh of Nefesh, etc. From the smallest light, smallest connection to the greatest light in the greatest connection.
16. S. (44:57) What are the firmaments? I keep understanding it differently. They talk about pillar of light, the book of remembrance, from one paragraph to another there are more explanations. How do we understand it correctly?
R. You do not need to understand it correctly however you understand it you understand it. You don’t need to make diagrams in your mind.
17. S. (45:35) It says here that the souls descend to the bodies of this world each one in its time. At the end of the item it says not every mind can bear it. What does that mean?
R. That we begin to receive illumination from the upper light which gradually comes to us as surrounding light and afterwards with more and more different illuminations. And in this way we get used to these illuminations and rise together with them somehow. They throw us from above downwards so we almost lose our ability to even understand what is written the way we understood before. From the book of Zohar and in general in the wisdom of Kabbalah we become denser, thicker and then again we reawaken, something shines on us and we rise above that state of the fall. And in this way through constant ups and downs through those changing, alternating situations, that’s where we are but by this we’re building our vessels, we’re constantly building our vessels. And the more we unite from these ups and downs together, more together, accordingly we can tolerate these ascents and descents because we divide them into many vessels and in this way we can go deeper down and rise higher up because we are all uniting. Our connection has discernments, has powers that are very special. If one person should rise and fall let’s say 1000 times in order to somehow go from one state to the next, if that person is connected to other people and they are all somehow connecting into these operations they can do it with one or two actions. This is the meaning of an integral system that exists in the vessel that collects, assembles the pieces, the parts and in this way it shifts from one state to the next. It’s like you have a different range the way it happens, a different frequency, not one to one but one to a million and more.
S. Meaning that the work environment is very important, there’s a group of friends who are in the same goal.
R. If you have a group with one action you can do what you couldn’t do by yourself with a hundred thousand actions because in spirituality when it spreads throughout the body which consists of a ten, where there are different qualities but connected, where there are different times to each one but they’re connected, you simply build out of these differences, out of these separations that exist between everyone you actually build a spiritual network, a spiritual network. This is what it’s all about, on the level of this world you can never build this network but when you rise to connection with others to the extent that you are not with them in willingness but you want to be in willingness because you have no choice but to follow the advice of Kabbalists; it turns out that by all the friends wanting to kill each other and yet understanding that they have no choice but to love each other, between those states they suddenly find something that seems like a miracle, something that is above nature. How such discernments, love and hate can be connected, not the one after the other as it happens in this world but together, how can we equalize these two opposites together? When we begin to attain it, this is called to attain spirituality.
S. When we’re talking about two levels here it’s basically two worlds that came together? The corporeal world and the upper world?
R. No, this can never happen because our corporeal world is an imaginary world, it simply disappears afterwards from all our imaginations and all that remains in our perception is the spiritual world which is the truth.
18. S. (53:07) If a friend is really damaging the system how can he ask the other friends for help?
R. You need to help him, you need to go down to his state, really go down to his state, that’s what it says and grab him, hug him. And when you are in his state, let’s say a lowly state you grab him, you hug him and then together you begin to rise.
S. How to recruit some faith, you no longer believe anything.
R. You don’t need any faith, we just have to all of us read something like the book of Zohar or some article from Baal HaSulam or Rabash, something that speaks more about you, that’s it. And the reforming light that is there in between the words and letters will save you. And when you rise together with this friend it will be a great benefit to everyone. Then you will understand that he went down so that you would raise him, and by raising him you would rise.
19. S. (55:01) The second state where we say there three states, the state of separation, of lack of feeling the Creator, that state exists? Because you said ultimately this world completely disappears, but this state does it exist this second state?
R. Of course it exists, of course it exists. You will see there will be all kinds of states, to come to the congress or not to come to the congress. Why, what for? I can sit at home and go deeper by watching them through the computer and other such things. No, we have to go to the desert and be there even for one night for those that is difficult for them, and try to unite and be around the fire like little kids camping. But we have to do this because our inner state requires it, it requires it. And I’m very happy that the whole of the Turkey group got its visas, its possibility to come. Let’s hope we will welcome in this way, we’ll have in this way all of our friends from all over the world.
S. It says that what the mind doesn’t do time does. So what’s really changing with the passing of time? If it was possible that the time would flow without our efforts the Creator would probably speed it up. What happens when time passes, what’s changing?
R. If the person is willing to bow his head and accept everything that happens to him as coming from above, that this is how the Creator organizes times and states then this too is a correction. We can’t respond to every single state openly and with some good and clear relation to it but even by simply submitting to it, if we go through these states these states will be to our benefit, they come for the purpose of correction.
S. So the time that passes needs to be with our participation and submission.
R. Our submission or subjugation is that we go down on our knees and submit ourselves, subjugate ourselves before the Creator so He will do with us whatever He thinks should happen. And we ask Him only to subjugate ourselves, to lower, to remove our egoistic desire, the egoistic forces that we have so we will be able to connect with Him, enter Him, annul before Him.
S. If I could continue there is this sentence ‘we were as dreamers’. When a person awakens from a dream he feels good that it wasn’t real but he still has the bad feeling of the dream if something happened to him. That feeling in spirituality when we come to the final correction, how can it be that it ever existed at all because it’s impossible that in the world of the Creator there is something bad. Will that too become corrected?
R. Why is it not good? It’s simply that those discernments that we cannot go through with our intellect or our rational decision we go through them in this way. But the Creator deliberately takes us through in such a way that we were as dreamers, and then our mouths are filled with laughter and our tongues with song.
20. S. (01:00:25) What does it mean to restrict, put a restriction on myself and live life through the vessels of my friends? What is my joy, what is my happiness in such a state?
R. I want to dissolve in the feeling of the friends that there is a connection between them and love and understanding and intellect and feeling and everything that is in them I want to be in this in this. Like a piece of some material that you throw into into a pot with boiling water I want to simply lose myself there lose myself to receive from them what there is in them, all the qualities all the forces gifts camps purposes everything that exists in them I want to receive it and be in it so they will absorb me this is what I want.
21. S. (01:02:08) Unconditional love, what does it mean unconditional? There is always a reason. Let’s say I love the friends for their yearning, for being in envy of them, for really wanting the same goal as they do, for the presents they give me, that’s when I love them. Is unconditional love something even higher than that?
R. We must love the friends because all of us through the Creator are drawn to adhesion with Him and He expects us because His heart rejoices in us. And because His heart rejoices in us we are drawn to Him and therefore we are all brothers because the Creator has chosen us, and connected us, and is pulling us to Him. So if we want to connect in this way then we already feel how close we are to each other and from this we already have the strength to rise.
22. S. (01:03:55) The thought about this great coupling that leads to the connection between the opposites awakens in me a sense of closeness, a sense of death. It’s like the world that I know disappears. What do we need to do to feel some opening, some light, some life, some freedom about that state?
R. You have to annul, cancel your heart and try to connect with the friends with the other hearts, those of the friends. And then you will feel the general, the common heart and in this way you will be able to advance.
23. S. (01:04:50) In the ten, there could be different states like a friend that jumps out of bed every day to the lesson and a friend, that it doesn’t matter what the lesson is, it’s great exertion. How do we create connection above such a great difference?
R. I saw with Rabash and during my time, my years with Rabash I saw all kinds of states. Friends would come to the lesson kind of wrecked, destroyed, you couldn’t even imagine it. We sometimes think oh it’s cold, I won’t go to the lesson, I don’t feel well, maybe, etc. There are all kinds of thoughts sometimes but we need to understand that all of this was given from above, it’s not some sickness that comes from somewhere else but only from the Creator. And we have to despite it fall out of bed and try to get up and go to the connection, to the lesson. It is much harder, it was much harder than it is today when everyone sits at home next to their computer etc., and it’s comfy and nice. It was different once. Rabash said he would walk an hour and a half to the lesson every night and the lesson started at midnight. Baal HaSulam arose toward midnight and started studying, so it was not simple for him to walk through all of Jerusalem to his father’s apartment and likewise all the friends. So it’s a lot easier for us because we are weak souls although it’s difficult for us, but still let’s just imagine what it was like then.
S. This difficulty is some indication that we are working incorrectly, that we need to change something in the ten?
R. No, this difficulty is only an indication that you should rise above this difficulty, nothing more, nothing more than that.
24. S. (01:08:10) Why a physical gathering like the desert or any other physical gathering is preferable to virtual gathering?
R. I come to the gathering of the Congress in the desert, physically, and although I am afraid: how will I feel etc., etc., with all the problems that I have. But I’m happy but there is such a meeting for us and that we can go through it and get stronger. So I’m coming not to hear the words of wisdom there, but simply to see all the friends, say a thousand fifteen hundred, two thousand, I don’t know how many friends will gather. And they will hold each other and we will get up and study and sit together in one tent, and we will eat together and go out to the desert a little bit for a walk, a short walk, as usual ‘a follow me’ in the desert. So I’m happy that we can do this once a year.
S. Besides the joy and excitement of the physical meeting, from a spiritual perspective, why is physical gathering preferable to virtual gathering?
R. A physical gathering, because we are in a corporeal world, and besides the corporeal impressions from each other, we have nothing, everything else the Creator; we don’t determine anything, the Creator determines everything else from His higher concealed, hidden level. So we have to do what is upon us, and I remember how Rabash related to such gatherings, what great importance he used to relate to it, to attribute to it. So even though I still don’t attain the importance that he felt, still, it is still, it left an impression in me and I think that we really, really should do this, the men. The women, I don’t know, I’m happy to hear that they too are coming to our building to have a gathering here for those two days. But this is already something else, this is something else already; let’s try to connect in our hearts and a physical Congress, like that, is very, very important.
25. S. (01:11:38) I’m already here for many years and the preparations of a month before the Congress, I somehow can’t get it. Why do we need to wait for a month, why can’t we say, let’s say in the coming Friday the whole Israeli Kli can come here and we have a thousand or so people in the hall here and we do what we need to do and seal the deal. Why do we need to wait a month and a half, and into the deserts with this whole production and event and sleep there, why can’t we do it here?
R. Look we are people, human beings, for the time being we are animals in this world although it’s the top level of the animal but we still belong to this world. And therefore, we need to start from this level and you can’t slide it, what do you recommend? We get together only in spiritual vessels in the spiritual degrees?
S. No I’m asking why wait a month, that is what I’m asking. Why not say, I don’t know I’m just saying, I understand that systems are not set up for it, But let’s say we would say this Friday, the Israeli Kli and whoever can do it, come here for the lesson, we have the lesson, we then have the noon lesson and that’s it and do this action. Why do we need to wait for a month?
R. There is a matter of preparation, there is a matter of physical gathering of all the friends from all over the world who also want to come, you understand, there is a big difference. We used to do it without going to the desert, afterwards such a big connection with the Russian Kli happened that we already had to search for a place to go out to the desert. We agreed to it and did it and it was very successful, actually I really hope that now, too, it will be like that. But how will you do it, in the building? It’s not the same in the building, “you change the location, you change your fortune, you change your luck”. We have to go out truly be in the desert, and there is a reason why the Torah also depicts it this way. And go through the desert, we will go through the desert, we will cross it from one end to the other and this way we will reach the Promised Land.
26. S. (01:15:09) You said that we need to annul the personal heart and connect to the general heart, I thought that I need to open my heart to the friend and bring him in and that he needs to do the same towards me, what is the common heart, the shared heart?
R. The general heart is when I am I understand that my friends have already connected to the general heart and I have to enter there and incorporate with them.
S. We’re saying the desire changes, we only change the intention so what is the general heart?
R. The general heart is that desire that has the same intention, many desires with one intention; you can change your desires, they come as parts of Adam HaRishon, but the intentions, you can.
S. Where will I find the heart?
R. That is something you should search for, search for this heart, the general hearts our whole organization.
S. I didn’t understand: so the heart of the whole organization or the heart of the ten?
R. No I don’t think the heart of the ten is enough, we want to connect everyone. How can I group in Patagonia and some group in South China and the group from Petah Tikva and other groups, we want all of them to enter into one mingled group where all the hearts connect together and then we buy this one desire will feel the Creator.
S. So if we’re talking about the Congress, first you said that we can open the heart only in the ten, we open the heart, we talk about love we connect?
R. The ten is the preparation for the Congress, yes.
S. How do we act in the Congress because there is a gathering of friends specifically in Congress, people open their hearts completely, to the maximum; we’re in the meals, how do we act there?
R. We talked about this a thousand times, I don’t know what you want to hear?
S. Because first we clarified and you said that you can only open your heart in the ten, the most intimate, what you can open to the friends is only in the ten.
R. Yes without me connecting in the ten I cannot reach others
S. So how do I remain both in the ten and search for the general heart?
R. I feel ten’s heart is one heart now I’m going to connect to other hearts of tens until we all connect to one true heart.
27. S. (01:18:38) About the Congress, what is this going to the desert, ‘as going down to the desert in force’?
R. ‘Desert’ is a land that was not seeded, it’s a hard land, difficult place where there’s nothing and a person doesn’t feel as if there is anything to give life to himself, and mainly has no water. And that’s how it comes to state called, ‘desert’ and then he’s only saved by the friends where everyone crosses the desert.
S. We see, however, in all of the sources, that the Creator has descended a person to the desert and here out of ourselves, we’re going to desert?
R. Yes there is such a mitzvah, to go down to the desert, to go out of exile, there is this mitzvah so a person has to feel a little bit what that means in his life.
28. S. (01:19:55) About the single heart, is it true still that as before there is Petah Tikva Kli, an Israeli Kli, a World Kli?
R. I don’t think that we should still have these discernments, however we have to pay attention that we want to connect this whole vessel in its parts to one.
S. You spoke earlier about the next degree that we’re going to come to, do you recommend to the ten to clarify, to depict what is that same degree?
R. All degrees to come are with additional connection until we reach one true ten.
S. Does the entire ten have a clarified role in the entire Kli?
R. Yes every ten has to try to absorb all the rest of the tens in it.
S. And the entire ten has the personality of its own, a unique?
R. Yes but we skip over that in order to be connected, it’s like drops of water that collect to one drop.
29. S. (01:21:45) What is the importance of the world gatherings and the contribution to the vessel to the World Kli?
R. When people gather around the world, so these actions we are doing here are done in each and every gathering, it is like a mini Congress, and it expresses their desire to be together.
30. S. (01:22:41) We heard the importance of the physical gathering of the men in the Arava Congress and you said also that it brings you joy to hear that there’s going to be a Women’s Gathering in the Petah Tikva Center but it somewhat different, in what is it different and to continue what is your expectation of this gathering?
R. I don’t know, I do not know, I don’t run these things, I’m not the manager here even with the men’s group. I am not in charge of the contents of the lessons or the schedule, nothing. I really don’t, I can’t tell you; also what is the difference between men and women? I think that women will organize around the men, as it’s written in the Torah about the reception of the Torah there were men and the women were around them, that is what I hope we’re going to have. Besides that, that you will have the time here to do all kinds of other actions, activities, the lessons, the lectures, maybe something else, I don’t know. I’m not going into this whole process, the social process, do whatever you think about the women. I’m more certain that they will know how to use their time properly whereas with the men actually we should examine that.
S. More than a question about the content but there is a guide, how do you see this gathering and it’s importance of the women?
R. The gathering of the women is important for us now. That is because, ultimately, soon we’re going to reach a state where we’re so close, the men and the women in the spiritual path, that there is no difference between us. We’re learning together, the lessons, the workshops, the meals, etc. I think that, I think that there will be no difference between us, besides the natural difference the Creator organized for us, this is why let’s try to organize the women’s Congress as the men’s Congress so that the women are with us together in all the actions that we have. And besides that, they have their own actions, when we go out to the desert or do all kinds of actions that are only characteristic for the men, so the women should also prepare for themselves such actions of women. We will talk about that, the truth is I don’t, I never dealt with that.
31. S. (01:27:30) If one friend enters the desert, can a properly united ten divide this desert on itself, between all the friends.
R. I don’t know, try.
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32. R. (01:33:21) Meaning it ends all the corrections, nothing is concealed because of it.
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