HOD: TIKKUN CHATZOT תקון חצות – LESSON WITH RAV MICHAEL LAITMAN
Baal HaSulam. Peace in the World
Morning Lesson November 04, 2022 Transcription
Transcription is made from simultaneous translation which leaves a possibility for differences in the audio
Part 2
Baal HaSulam. Peace in the World (Hopes for Peace)
Reading: Hopes for Peace
1. R. (00:38) As we’ve seen our days at least, yes.
Continues (00:41) “The Peacemakers Appeared in Society…”
2. R. (01:56) This is basically what happens, these are the people we elect. We almost prefer the stronger people that have the power of a position who seemingly understand what they want and they know how to put pressure on others and we think that these are the worthy people to organize our society and lead Society to a state that is well organized and good and correct, that is on the one hand. However we see that as much as we follow them meaning after a big and mighty strength, how much every time we make mistakes by that, they control us. But it is to our detriment and this control when they abuse us, we discover after we elect them and they control us. This happens to us every time one generation after the other and every period of time we always choose these destructors.
Continues (03:32) “But the constructors in society who are the men of Mercy…”
3. S. (07:37) The hearts of ministers and kings are in the hands of the Creator so I understand that the Creator is also behind the destructors, when will the Creator give force to the constructors?
R. First of all I’m not certain about what you said about the destructors and the constructors is correct. I think that the ones who are seemingly ruining the world today belong to the constructors. Their actions are to construct, build anew. What we see in our eyes we will have to examine that, but they ruin today the clean the territory. In other words, it is not Baal HaSulam’s words but they are cleaning the area to build a new world, so that we will understand that what we have built was all wrong. Both built on a weak foundation and the intention was not for the future, we haven’t done it right.
S. How much do we need to destroy or clean as you say?
R. The ones who actually destruct are today the constructors. Just like when you come to a certain place and you clean it up to build something new, so these are the constructors.
S. How much do we need to destroy or clean what is around today in order to build something new?
R. Until we understand what we should do.
S. He writes here that the conditions still have not been created yet?
R. Bit by bit they are being cleared out of this ruin. But more things that were previously there, are destructed and they were seemingly good. We are asking where is this world when we had olympic games and cultural connections between countries, people used to marry and give birth to children and enjoy their life, today no one wants that anymore. It is all clear when you give birth and you build things they’re all going to be distructed. What should we do, I think this is actually a good thing when we finally understand how much of our whole building is not correct, it’s bad.
S. Beyond that where people get despaired or they don’t believe in this material construction, do you think they will start believing something higher in humanity?
R. Of course, first of all their despair is the despair of what they built in their ego. This brings them closer to the real decision that we have to build something with a different goal and a different intention in a different connection between us. Then we will have a new enlightened world.
4. S. (11:35) Why does it go through, what’s yours is yours, and what’s mine is mine called the seekers of truth, what is that the truth?
R. Each one wishes to express his direction may do that but it should not be in contradiction to others, meaning that it will want to contradict others. It’s like in science even though there it also is not clean. When each scientist says his own opinion and seemingly goes against others, all these things are only to scrutinize truth. Truth does not belong to any one person, it belongs to the upper force. The more we rise above that truth we can reach the right decisions where no particular one is correct or incorrect so no personal person can build himself on others.
5. S. (13:21) If I understood correctly those who battle for peace they battle for truth they are the ones that are the peacemakers?
R. Yes.
S. Can we discern those things in the ten?
R. We shouldn’t discern those things in the ten, in the ten this will be revealed to us by itself from our general advancement. We shouldn’t pick into all these things because I might go to these qualities and those qualities and it will not help us advance.
6. S. (13:56) In experience we see that whoever wants to destroy what was before them only builds something worse upon what was previously there, meaning more egoistic. When do we know that the end to that process comes where truly the destruction will be in order to build something correct, in the direction of bestowal?
R. Whenever we without qualities without changing ourselves build something new, but rather whenever we make something new of ourselves then we will certainly build something new outside of us in society in the social connection. We ourselves have to change in order to build the connection between us, on you.
S. This correction has to be personal for each and every one?
R. Each and everyone has to be corrected and then we will reach the general correction of course, but it is not that we can build something new without correcting ourselves. How, where from?
7. S. (15:24) Baal HaSulam writes here that it is natural for people, and then he says it is natural that all peacemakers come from among the destructors and not from the constructors and that we see that generation who yearns for that, so who is he speaking to here?
R. You’re speaking about people who were afraid of others just in order not to bring wars.
S. Who are the constructors in the destructors in the correct definition and how to discern who are those who construct, can we define them so we can understand who they are?
R. I would say that whoever is willing to give up for another is the constructors and anyone who will not give up to others he is a destructor.
S. Can we define them here in Israel? Who are the constructors and the destructors, can we define them?
R. Yes. I don’t really want to talk this way.
S. We need to know them.
R. This won’t help you to understand this once and for all. Whoever is going to the right to keep the whole country out of the constructors and whoever is going in the opposite, are the destructors .
S. Very nice, why were you afraid to say that?
R. I’m not afraid to say, I do not want people to come and to talk about me for all kinds of reasons but that is the way it is. We see it every time and day to day we see it more and more.
8. S. (17:44) In an ideal state if we were to construct upon the old?
R. Maybe it is possible but it’s not so simple because there are dynamics between all these people and everyone changes a bit and there is a mystery here and in short we will see that. It is not over yet even though these elections have determined something in our country. They gave room for the right force to control, as much as they can control that is a problem, yes.
S. How do we make it so the next generation will be completely established, formulated based on the previous generation in relation to those who need to and what does the current generation need to do in order to establish the next generation?
R. No there is no not such a thing that in the present we count on what in the past, no, we have to only go forward.
9. S. (19:43) It is unclear, how does it work where the truth comes from the Creator but those who seek truth become the destructors instead of bringing to connection adhesion, on the contrary they detach people?
R. Keep on reading and you’ll understand we will keep on reading and will understand. I remember this problem always used to arise.
10. S. (20:20) The destructors that our teacher also called now the constructors, there is no hope that peace will come from them. Does our society need to know how to make peace even in a small way among each other?
R. Only by disseminating love your friend as yourself.
S. If we make peace between us does that disseminate love your friend as yourself?
R. Yes, it will affect through the underground it will affect everyone. Because it is a force that is connected to the Creator, love of brothers, connection between us for the sake of connection with the Creator and bringing the world to His control. It will affect everything.
S. What states do we need to make peace between us?
R. What do you mean in all states, in all states.
S. Between us in the ten I want to make peace. Recently I exploded on a friend and a really big one and then I said I was sorry and today we are closer than before, can we use such states in order to make peace?
R. It does not matter what states, you have to try to be close to each other and reach one system.
11. S. (22:10) We see that the entire development of the world took place through states of destruction, wars and developed through that. Now we see that these shatterings come from below not from the courageous not from the weak but from something which is between them, between the constructors and the destructors. What is the middle point between the constructors in the destructors?
R. I would say that from free choice for each and everyone of us. Each and everyone of us is incorporated from both, but let’s keep on reading, there lies the answer.
S. Why are the constructors faint hearted and the destructors, seekers of truth?
R. Because every one thing we build is ready for destruction to begin with.
12. S. (23:39) Can you explain to us why you said now that those who are inclined to the right for the whole land of Israel, those are the ones who are considered constructors?
R. Because they want to build ,they want to build something that according to the laws of this world has to be built and if you go to the other side you simply need to disassemble to go in different ways and to keep moving on and stop existing. That is why these are called constructors and those are called destructors and you will see that anyone who is on the way of connection, seemingly the way of connection like in Russia and other countries here and there, bit by bit. Throughout history they wither and they disappear like the Kibbutzim here in Israel and everything because they do not have a real foundation which is healthy.
13. S. (25:04) Here in the article we speak about constructors and destructors but there is this feeling that these are egoistic qualities that some people are capable of and some are not capable of. What is the connection, are not the constructors righteous?
R. No, we need to read again what he is talking about.
Continue reading (25:41) “Do not be surprised if I mix together the well-being of…”
14. R. (30:18) We see that even now in this war between Russia and Ukraine how much this evokes dependency of all the countries and all the other countries with all the raw materials that are supplied or not supplied, with the crops and oil, for gas and each and everything. Now that Russia has stopped having commerce with their machines and cars airplanes etc. how much this country starts by that to descend with all of its power.
That is how it will happen for each and everyone and each and everyone will feel how much each one depends on everyone else and no one can say anymore, that they can live alone and not be dependent on anyone. No one can say that everyone depends on him, it is a big problem in this world and this should teach us how much we are in one system, the entire entry humanity with all this small Earth.
15. S. (31:40) It is clear that in every century the destroyers in a greater moment than the destroyers, how will they come to the feeling that their way is not real?
R. Through the actions out of what they see in practice, that they do not have anyone to rule or anything to rule with the way they want to advance because everything is falling apart. They will not be able to place the right forces of connection sufficiently intense forces of forces in the world if they are going to destroy the world.
That is why there is nothing to do, we will come to a decision that the future of this world has to go through connection, a good connection meaning according to the desire of each and every country or maybe there will not be any countries anymore. There will be territories that will be named differently somehow but according to these different parts of countries, nations, doesn’t matter what you call it, they will want to be together because they will understand that with mutual consideration between everyone, there is profit for everyone both with ecology and humanity and everyone.
S. Will it be right for the Kabbalists to rule the world?
R. Kabbalists are people that understand the rules of nature, so I hope yes. They will not control, they have nothing to control, why to control, what for? That they will be respected in the eyes of the world? As the ones who know the laws of nature, people will want to hear the advice of Kabbalists in order to build human society which has adapted to the laws of nature and then certainly everyone will be better. There will be balance in the world.
16. S. (35:07) You made a picture of a future where there are no countries in this global world but rather there will be territories as you said that will have desires. What is a certain territory with a nation, is it a desire?
R. Yes, it is written in the Torah that there are 70 roots to humanity, it’s 7×10=70 and that is how humanity divides until it reaches one Nation as one man with one heart. We will see how that works out but at the end of it everyone needs to connect, such that there will be no difference between anyone. It all depends on the transformation on the changes that each one receives in mind and heart. I hope that it will transpire quickly in us.
S. Can we say that these laws of connection in the ten and laws of connection in the big group like with us are an example for the connection in countries?
R. Yes, I think that is how it will be.
17. S. (36:52) Why does the Creator, why must we go through all the stages like the family and the country and the correction and the Creator?
R. Please repeat the question.
S. Why doesn’t the Creator make us part of the whole world, why did the Creator create this perception that we see a family and countries,why are we limited in this kind of reception?
R. We will reach the end of correction and from it we will understand everything. Then we will see that the end of the act is in the initial thought. For the time being we cannot see anything, it is like a baby, you will not go to explain to a baby how the world is constructed because it will not understand it will not grasp it, there is no intellect no vessels for that. We will reach the end of correction and we will have the vessels to understand the entirety of a real reality, all the world’s everything is concealed from us, everything beyond the Galaxies. And in human society and the depth of all the connections between us and the mutual bestowal, the entire history, everything that ever happened until the very last atom in reality. But it is not for now.
18. S. (39:12) Should we make a destruction or is it made naturally the moment there is a new truth?
R. We do not need to make any destruction on our own behalf,we only need to try to build and our construction if it is not true it will always be drawn to destruction and then we will be building a new construction. Then we will do that again and again and again until we reach the understanding of what we need to build in order not to deviate.
19. S. (40:04) I have a confusion here and I hope my question is correct. Whenwe go out with the message of love your friend as yourself out to the world, this message sounds like a left-wing message, let’s say I love everyone let’s connect everyone?
R. Explain well so that they will not think it is the left.
S. What should we say below a few lines of love your friend as yourself, what should we say?
R. It does not relate to the left at all but the left takes all kinds of these Sayings in order to draw people into things that do not relate to these sayings. This is usually the lie of the left.
S. Okay that is a negative, it is not left, but what is it?
R. We saw it all around the world and all the places, in Cuba, Russia in all of Eastern Europe and Africa. Didn’t you see what the left did with all the sayings?
S. I’m not talking about that I understand what you said but I want to explain love your friend as yourself in a positive way, so what does it mean? Let’s forget about left.
R. Without relating to parties Nations or anything, every single person needs to reach their own individual correction in that they come closer to the other, so that we will again reach that same system of Adam HaRishon before the sin.
S. It still sounds like a left wing saying to someone else. What do you mean I need to correct myself, I need to love others. There is a message above a personal being?
R. It appears to you this way for the time being. I also remember that I thought the same thing but that is not the case.
We simply need to reach closeness between people and you do not see acts of the left and even acts of the right that they come closer to one another. it does not relate to human nature, it does not belong to human nature. We need to check what it means to come closer to be adhered, what is this demand of the Torah towards us.
20. S. (42:59) I want to strengthen what you said, a nice sentence that the whole story is to come close between people. Baal HaSulam strengthens what you said and accordingly there’s no reason to engage in the right conducts of one country but the whole world. Meaning he cancels left and right there is nothing for him what he says now, only actions will prove and push humanity forward. It is as if there is no left and no right as you said, just to come closer to people that’s all. As if he cancels everything, there is no such a thing?
R. He says that we do not need to pay attention to how we divided humanity into all these factions. That there is no left and no right, we simply need to come back to one system, a round one, an integral one which is one man.
S. What he says is that only actions will push humanity, what actions?
R. We will go through this in practice with success and failure and then we will understand what we need to do in order to reach as one man with the one heart.
S. Basically he mentions the Wisdom of Kabbalah indirectly?
R. Yes this is what the Wisdom of Kabbalah talks about, Wisdom of Kabbalah discusses connection between everyone without any boundaries and with no sharp ends.