KETER: YESHIVAT HAVERIM – BABYLONIAN TALMUD p64

Come 1 and hear. R. Helbo in the name of R. Hama b. Gorion, quoting Rabh, said: “The Mishna
speaks only about putting the victuals upon the stove, but as to putting them into the stove it is
surely prohibited.” Now, if thou sayest the dispute is about returning (the pot to the stove), this
remark is correct, for there is a difference to what place it is returned, whether into the stove or
upon it; but if the question were about keeping it on the stove while it is there, what difference
would it make?
Do you think R. Helbo’s report refers to the first part of the Mishna? It refers to the second part,
in which Beth Hillel allows it to be returned; and to this he says, even in this case, upon the
stove it is permissible, but not into the stove.
The schoolmen propounded a question: “May (a pot with victuals) be placed so as to touch the
side of the stove? Does the prohibition which holds good for putting it into or upon the stove
apply also here, or is touching its side a different case?” Come and hear. “A stove that was
heated with pressed poppy seed or wood may (be used) to put a pot alongside of, but not on,
unless the live coals were taken out or covered with ashes.” If the coals get dim or fine hurds
were put upon them, they are considered as if their fire was damped with ashes. R. Itz’hak
b. Na’hmani in the name of R. Oshia says: If the fire was damped and still it got a-glowing,
victuals that are sufficiently warm, and cooked meats that require no more cooking, may be left
standing upon it.