NETZACH: TIKKUN CHATZOT תקון חצות – LESSON WITH RAV MICHAEL LAITMAN
Lesson on the topic of “Pesach (Passover)”
Morning Lesson April 1, 2022 Transcription
Transcription is made from simultaneous translation which leaves a possibility for differences in the audio
Passover – Selected Excerpts from the Sources. (He Who Hardened His Heart #74)
1.Rav’s Introduction: Yes, we learn that what we have to go through in our spiritual ascent on the path, and our spiritual development, it is all written in the Torah, that here it says we have to go through a state called exile. It is not that before we were in exile or not in exile but we need to know what it is. That our life, our ordinary life, let’s say according to what the world thinks, suddenly we start to feel that more and more we exist in disconnection in remoteness from something that is higher to which we yearn. Then our life is called the life of exile and in that exile we begin to more and more get to know all kinds of disturbances, even blows on the path and those blows come to us in a directed manner. On one hand, they distance us from the goal to the extent that we talk about it and understand it and feel it in all kinds of different forms. We feel bad, we feel bitter, we are confused, meaning it’s both in our mind and also in our heart. We feel a state which is not clear, we don’t understand it, not exactly what we were expecting. It is a state where we don’t understand what is happening to us until we start more and more to establish ourselves and to see how much our path is the opposite of what we were thinking before.
Before we came to the wisdom of Kabbalah and also when we started to engage in it, we were thinking that this is a way just like any other kind of advancement corporeal or spiritual. That it is through the study and all kinds of actions we need to do, but here it is something else. We need to cope against our own nature and in spite of our nature, we need to rise above it and we feel how much we are not capable of even understanding this principle, of accepting it and all the more so to really overcome our nature, our will to receive. Some are to work against it, and one who is greater than his friend his inclination is greater.
The more a person has a greater will to receive, has an opportunity to rise higher on the ladder but in the meantime he has a greater hardening of the heart and this is how we are here, standing before this great obstacle. That our nature truly rises before us and it doesn’t allow us to advance towards bestowal, towards love, towards connection. Where all the spiritual discernments that we read about, that we study and therefore we begin in that to discern, to distinguish who Pharaoh is, that indeed he rises and presents himself, that he only thinks about himself. Where is he? Inside of us, inside every action, inside every thought that a person feels, that awakens in a person, there he feels Pharaoh, if he wants to feel him if he gives him attention. Certainly only he thinks of his own benefit and this is precisely the presence of Pharaoh within him.
We will study these excerpts and we will see how much indeed we are in the revelation of Pharaoh. He becomes revealed more and more as the obstructor on the one hand, and when he reveals the Creator to us, upon his disturbances. On the other hand as we see in technology and everything, when you have a resistor, you have resistance and upon it when we work, we discover something, so what is this phenomenon? Whatever it is, it’s only through overcoming upon the disturbance. This is therefore how we need to understand that where we discover, that we don’t want to put in effort towards connection, towards the Creator, in the direction of the purpose of creation. There, if we will put in the effort, a strong labor against the indifference or even against the forces that resist us, then we will feel according to our investment and according to the opposite force, we will discover the power, the result which is the revelation of the Creator.
Therefore here we have the revelation of Pharaoh who is strengthening the disturbance, our heart, what we call the will to receive and according to how much above this will to receive, we would be able to do some action, some deed, some thought. According to that we will advance to a state where we will discover the force that is in favor and the force that is against and we will discover how much we don’t want to advance. If we do want to advance toward connection, toward rising above the disturbances then we will discover specifically there, in that we will discover Pharaoh, the force of resistance. Above Pharaoh we will discover the force that becomes revealed which is the Creator. This is how they are tied together. We will read excerpts and you will ask. You will also talk between you, please.
Reading Excerpt #74 (09:28) “He Who Hardened His Heart”
2. R. (10:17) These things that the central force is obstructing us from reaching connection between us, in order to discover the Creator in this connection, the main force, the obstructing force is all in all called Pharaoh. There are many sub forces of various kinds, they are weak and these are the peripheral disturbances, let’s call it that. Whereas the general is called Pharaoh, it is truly the collection of all of the forces of disturbance, the greatest one and we need to detect it, we need to get to know him. With respect of this world, Pharaoh seems to us a good force because by him the will to receive that the person has, the person goes and opens this world. He understands, he feels, he explores, he becomes wiser.
Whereas with respect to spirituality these forces of ours can only help us by something and its opposite. When some force grows stronger and we discover it as obstructing the connection between us and it is actually directing us toward the Creator, who is the general of force that is connecting between us and also disturbing us. It turns out that we discover the spiritual force this way also. Meaning in the end Pharaoh, his role is to direct us towards spirituality, however in the opposite manner because we cannot reach spirituality out of our own nature, our will to receive, so Pharaoh helps us to rise above our own nature and reach the will to bestow.
3. S. (12:45) In order to define correctly Pharaoh, what is against him? What is the degree of Moses relative and to what do we measure him?
R. We can measure Pharaoh only according to the force that is disturbing us, hindering us from connecting, hindering us from aiming to bestow, therefore this force is so important for us. Pharaoh is very important because he directs us precisely to the opposite form, otherwise we wouldn’t even be able to detect spirituality ever. This is what we need and therefore we respect this force in that it helps us even though it is the opposite of us, it hates the Creator. This is how they are built one opposite the other in order to give us the possibility to the extent that we distance ourselves from Pharaoh, we can connect with the Creator and in that way we can detect ourselves, where we are on this narrow lane between the two of them.
S. After all there are many and all kinds of components of hardening of the heart towards connection between us. Maybe today and I want to sleep, tomorrow the heart is stoney, let’s say the next day I hate the friends. Meaning where do we exactly see Pharaoh in this?
R. This is where the force of Pharaoh is. In that way he’s directing us to the Creator towards spirituality. It is the opposite force, the opposite force. We have so many examples in our world where we use the opposite force of the goal in order to reach it.We cannot do anything if we don’t have two forces that are opposite, contradictory. Only through two, we can see ourselves one opposite the other, one in favor of the other. In that way when I hold myself with the two of them, then I can be certain that I am advancing correctly. The right way is on the middle line, on the middle trail. There I reach the Creator so that the Creator is truly the origin of both of them. The force of giving and the force of reception.
S. How to protect yourself in the middle line in the right way?
R. Usually we discover ourselves and we find ourselves that we exist in a certain force and when we want to advance towards spirituality we feel how much we are in the opposite force, in the opposite disposition. In that way between the two of them we nevertheless try to go in the direction of connection, in the spiritual direction and in that way we advance. All of our work is in that.
4. S. (16:42) If we use the force of Pharaoh with the intention to give benefit to others, by that do we change our nature or do we always remain in the nature of the will to receive?
R. You remain in the nature of the will to receive always. We cannot emerge from it because this is us, however the person is given the opportunity to get a force that he uses his will to receive in order to bestow, on different degrees or intensities and in that way one advances. To emerge from the will to receive, we cannot, outside of the will to receive there is only the Creator and inside the will to receive is the force of Pharaoh. We exist in the force of Pharaoh and we have an opportunity to acquire through our deeds and actions and thoughts, meaning with our mind and heart that we will be able to perform actions that are similar to The Creator. It is as though we are in the force of bestowal but in truth we are from the force of reception. We just get from above the force of the Creator so that in our actions will be with the intention to bestow. It turns out that we are called Adam, Domeh similar to the Creator, not the Creator but similar to the Creator. Out of the fact that we are made of the will to receive but with the intention in order to bestow.
5. S. (18:52) What’s the difference between the hardening of the heart against Israel and the hardening of the heart against the Creator?
R. We only work opposite Pharaoh, opposite the will to receive, the evil inclination. Towards it we need to perform a restriction and a screen and reflected light and get forces from it. We work with these forces in order to bestow, this action is called my sons has defeated me. This is how we need to work.
S. It says here that the hardening of the heart against Israel’s but not against the Creator?
R. It’s a simple difference, that it is opposite to the work. If I have resistance I don’t want to put in effort, labor and I feel that the spiritual goal does not attract me and this is the opposite of what needs to be done, that I need to overcome this laziness. The fact that I am drawn to all kinds of things that are opposite to the goal, these are the disturbances that we get.
6. S. (20:46) How to use our desire for Arvut, to come to the goal?
R. It is only by us studying together and talking together and somehow operating together that we are in a group. That each one shall have his friend, and we will look at the others and it seems to us that they are more successful then through envy, lust and honor we can advance already.
21:39
7. S. (21:39) Usually when we feel ourselves wanting to preserve the middle line we find ourselves in a force that we wants to advance to spirituality, we feel how we’re in the opposite force, in an opposite tendency, how to ask from the Creator for the middle line in the right way?
R. Usually we study together and we talk between us and in this way, by talking between us, we locate the path and help each and every one to see the trail correctly in which we should walk until the end of correction.
S. In the beginning of the lesson and the preparation, they talked about how we pray to see the friends, to pray for them, for them to receive everything, but I’m a little confused on the matter, that all the years that I learned from you that we need to pray for the Creator to give us the ability to see everyone as perfect, so what should we do here, see them perfect or see that they have problems and we need to pray for them?
R. Both this and that. We are on two lines and in between the two of them we have to connect them together but usually I see I need to see the friends as whole and myself that I can advance only in that I become incorporated in them.
8. S. (23:44) The first time we discovered the other side kind of under pressure and in continuation what, habit becomes second nature or does this pressure…?
R. We advance only by that, that the Creator, it’s always the Creator, the Upper light, he is holding us, leading us, strengthening us, raising us, we cannot take a single step without the Upper force we are always in him. He revives us and also in general the whole of reality, the still, vegetative, and animate, and all the more, when we want spiritual advancement then we need him, we already need to enter in a personal, mutual connection with him. There has to be a direct connection between us that I ask and he gives and I know what I need to ask for it because I study him and in that way we advance. It is always towards him and we always receive from him, There is None Else Beside Him.
9. S. (25:21) We feel the revelations of Pharaoh in us and there remains room in us to justify that Pharaoh is inside us. Will it be correct to depict to ourselves that what’s revealed there is who Pharaoh is so there will be no room for justification?
R. No, the fact that Pharaoh rules over me is one thing, the fact that I say that I myself am Pharaoh, that is incorrect. I want to emerge from his control and therefore, it is always desirable that I will imagine to myself that this is an alien force that is working on me and it comes opposite the Creator and these two forces are operated on me and they actually are equal. It is as we speak of the evil inclination and the good inclination that they lead the person from this world to the end of correction. We are being taken on two hands and this is how they lead us.
10. S. (26:57) It is clear that Pharaoh helps us build the Masach, screen, but how does this mechanism look?
R. Also things that are against sanctity ,against connection, against support and love and bestowal, they are called the forces of Pharaoh. Whatever is against and because through these forces that are against we can discover the forces that are in favor this is why we respect Pharaoh and it’s not that we love him but rather we relate to him meticulously so by him we can discover the qualities of the Creator, one against the other.
11. S. (27:59) I want to understand, these Pharaoh and Amalek and the servants, are these states within me or are they forces outside?
R. It’s only inside us, only inside the person that are these states and the fact that it seems to the person that he has a world around him, this all exists inside of the person, it doesn’t exist around him. Outside the person there is nothing. Everything takes place inside of our desire, that’s it. The Creator created the desire and in order for us to live in it he created it in such a multi-faceted way such that there are two opposite forces here and in between these two forces as in between darkness and light we can see the whole of reality. And why should we see it?
In order to discern in it what belongs to the Upper force, to the Creator, and what belongs to the lower force, to Pharaoh or to the Created being and so that in between these two forces the two of them have different purposes, different goals. The purpose of the Creator is to reveal the spirit in a person and the purpose of Pharaoh is to reveal the importance of the body, his will to receive. So you can look at how the ancient Egyptians cared to preserve their bodies even after their death, they didn’t want to let their bodies rot and disappear and they were successful in that, and actually the Kabbalists even they have no importance for the human body but to the opposite to the contrary as much as the body rots faster it’s better, in corporeality and also in spirituality.
12. S. (30:45) What is the best and fastest way to move from the control of Pharaoh to the control of the Creator?
R. It is when I hold on to the society and then I don’t lose myself in states that are in between the decrease.
13. S. (31:16) You said that the time has come to build a personal relationship with the Creator. How does Pharaoh help us with that, specifically with that and not just distractions from it?
R. There’s no such thing that Pharaoh is pulling us away from the Creator. It seems to us this way but his whole purpose is to bring us specifically to the recognition and understanding that the Creator is necessary for us and we must have a grip of him and advance in that way.
14. S. (32:01) If I understood correctly you said that a personal relation towards the Creator is to know what to ask and he answers. So need to ask specifically to work with Pharaoh, that’s kind of like the correct request to the Creator?
R. First of all, we need to understand that everything that is aiming us, it is all the Creator, there is None Else Besides Him, and even when I discover Pharaoh it’s written about it, come unto Pharaoh, the Creator tells the person, “Come to Pharaoh, I will advance you towards him,” even though the person very much doesn’t want to, as it says about Moses that he was afraid very much, he was shivering, he didn’t want to, like a little child, he didn’t want to come close to Pharaoh who is scary and great, who may confuse him and manipulate him, and turn him around and the Creator said, “No, come together with me, come with me and I will teach you how to behave with him, so much so that you will be able to overcome him and you will be wise, and you will be great, and you will be able to truly fight with him, so much so that you will take everything that he has in Egypt and you will come out of Egypt with that.” What does it mean? You will come out of the rule of Pharaoh but everything that Pharaoh has, the will to receive, take that and you bring it out in order to use it to bestow.
S. But the Creator told Moses, “come to Pharaoh” and took him by the hand. We also want the Creator to tell us that and to take us by the hand.
R. Before that there’s all kinds of actions that Moses performed, says so you will see that the Creator is holding you by the hand, he’s leading you through all kinds of states, so that in them specifically you discover, even though you are afraid, even though you don’t want ,but if you do go and carry out the recommendations of the Creator then you discover that he is holding you by the hand and leading you. It is called the exile, nevertheless the Creator is not revealed. But even though he is not revealed if you are constantly drawn to have a hold of him as much as possible then it turns out that you do advance and that state is very much unpleasant, it is not simple, because you are working under the rule of Pharaoh and you want to be governed by the rule of the Creator.
15. S. (35:21) What kind of deficiency will we be to solve this hardening of heart so that we pass through the crossing point?
R. This deficiency exists in us. One who comes to the Wisdom of Kabbalah, he feels that he has to know what to live for, how to live, how to discover his soul which is a Godly part from above that dresses within the person, when the person discovers his desire in the right way and then inside this desire what he discovers is the soul, Neshama. This is how we advance.
16. S. (36:36) We come to a conclusion that we don’t have enough importance of the Creator, importance of Rav, and importance of the sources, otherwise we would be making a greater effort. How can we make this explosion in the group so we can give importance to everyone so we will invest more efforts?
R. You are right, that’s the main question, importance. The importance of advancement, which depends on the importance of the group, the importance of the friends, the importance of the study, this performance of what I will receive from the friends, from the group. This is all dependent on me and the friends to the extent that we are connected and can supply to each other this importance. It is written about this: envy, lust, and honor take a person out of the world, out of the world that he’s in on a certain degree, to a higher degree. It is also called world so there is nothing here except for envy, lust, and honor, those three things, envy, lust, and honor.
Those three things are in our world before us, you don’t need to be a great Kabbalist, you don’t be you don’t need to be of attainment, nothing. Envy, lust, and honor and this is here, use it in order to awaken each of our egos in order to advance towards the spiritual goal and you will see to this extent in which this helps you, and if I calm myself down and don’t evoke envy, honor, and lust in me then I have no forces to advance because I’m an egoist, forces of ego are in me, so how will I advance? With what?
I need between these forces to awaken myself a little bit more forward, therefore, it is not a problem that I have envious of my friends and that’s why I am opening a book or I’m entering a lesson because I’m looking at them and I don’t want to be any lesser than them. Yes, I don’t want to be behind them, I don’t want to be that, or lagging behind them. The fact that each time I have to go to a higher degree, a little more and a little more, and we need with our vessels, meaning, in the states we are in give each and every friend such a feeling that there is between us envy, lust, and honor.
17. S. (40:07) In relation to awakening envy towards the friends, in the friends, to awaken with envy, to advance with envy, that’s clear pretty much but awaking out of envy and honor that’s not so clear. What exactly should I awaken in on the friends, what should the ten awaken me in order to advance?
R. Perhaps I didn’t understand you but, I need to see in the ten the best forces in my eyes within which it is and that they have it and for me it’s less, and then by that I will have a necessity to connect to them, to come closer to them and to learn from etcetera. Meaning, my friends are like the upper nine and I am Malchut and each time I want to raise myself to the upper nine, as the upper nine are the forces of bestowal and Malchut is the forces of reception and in this way I have to depict myself each time that I’m rising this way from Malchut to the upper nine.
I entered them, I connected to them, seemingly received from them into my vessel, into my Malchut, some qualities, some understandings, desires, intentions, whatever I can and then I need to work on the fact that through envy, lust, and honor I see them even greater and even more I want to come to them and in this way by the way that Rabash writes that I depict myself as a zero relative to them and therefore I ascend more and this is why I advance. It is impossible to advance, to rise, to attain anything without this engine.
S. In truth I didn’t quite understand, envy I understand it, I’m envious of the friends, I’m envious of their advancement, I depict myself, I show myself as great towards the friends so that they will envy me and advance, but, here you are saying that envy, lust and honor ,so advancing through lust and honor, what exactly is this?
R. All kinds of impressions from them that you can imagine to yourself, use that, that’s it. Envy is clear to us, every one of us can depict to himself, lust is where you envy them even more to the extent in which they, in envy you envy their vessels, in lust you envy their filling, and in honor you envy some what relations or attitudes they have upon them from others. It’s three degrees. We didn’t learn them yet so much but we will. This is what we can imagine when he comes to a higher state to us. Envy, lust, and honor.
18. S. (44:59) As we learned, we are always check that in the ten, are we giving contentment to the Creator in each and every action, but there is a deep question that comes out of it which is if the Creator is pure bestowal, the Creator has no vessels of reception how can he feel our contentment?
R. Are you asking about him? There’s no answers about him. We can only say one thing about him, all that is in me he created. Meaning, that there are those qualities, desires, thoughts, all the things you can depict inside of a person and all together in creation, are all as roots in the Creator which is why he has no problem, difficulty to know what to do with a man, how a man I feels, and how to plan for a person certain actions, it is all in him, only from the end of an act comes the initial thought. Just like parents take care of their baby, a little child, they know all of his thoughts and all his desires, what he wants and from their love they go down to his degree and play and arrange everything for him that’s how the Creator is with us he diminishing himself to our degree lowers himself to our degree and plays with us.
S. Can we say that the Creator is incorporating in us and he’s taking vessels of reception for us and he’s feeling that reception through us, through our Dvekut with him?
R. You want to understand how the Creator works, you want to understand how you can help him with your vessels? We can’t for the time being talk on that level. It is such a level of lowness and zero understanding and desires it is not even worthwhile to go in that direction. What’s happening with the Creator and what he does, the Creator is everything, all of reality, all of nature and as it exists in a degree that has no deficiencies, no questions or answers, no two forces, none of that, it’s many degrees above what we can imagine. It’s not worthwhile to enter in such a thing. It’s like a baby is thinking about his parents and much more than that.
S. Like when David beat Goliath he was just a child so I have hope and courage.
R. It is good that you have hope and courage but add to it a little bit of wisdom that we need a lot more to learn and to receive new forces so that we will be able to depict ourselves what the Upper degree is. I will tell you simply the Upper degree from you is all in pure bestowal and it is only the closest adjacent degree to you, it is all in the bestowal, above your reason. Try to reach above your reason and you will be in a degree plus and then it will be easier for you to talk, and also in a very limited manner because it is all together plus one and there are many more degrees.
19. S. (50:04) If I understood correctly then it makes me feel confused because they said that Pharaoh hates the Creator. How can it be that a force that stems from the Creator can hate him, and if that force exists in me, that I’m the one who hates the Creator?
R. Yes, everything that happens upon us is us. We are incorporated by the people of Israel, we incorporate by the Egyptians, by Pharaoh and all those forces, they’re in me. I cannot say where are they, in some place, they’re in me and therefore I include them all. But the main thing is Pharaoh, to somewhat understand how he works with us, try to play with him, rise above him, you have a nice song about Pharaoh. Where is it? Maybe they will let us hear it. Please who’s there in the broadcast room? Is there a Russian song? Okay they can do it. We continue.
Reading Excerpt #75 (53:51) ”We can interpret the difference…”
20. S. (55:13) Yes we need to understand one principle here against Pharaoh there is only the Creator and if I want to overcome, to resist, to rise above the force the Pharaoh that controls me, then I need above reason to strengthen in the Creator and only through that I am saved from the control of Pharaoh up on me. This is actually, therefore, why Pharaoh is so important because this is the force that pushes me to the Creator. Therefore, Pharaoh strengthens the person, he pushes a person outside of Egypt specifically, he operates against himself seemingly, and therefore, we need him, we read about this before that we really need to respect Pharaoh but in such a way that we do not subjugate ourselves to ourselves towards him but on the contrary we respect him since he shows us the correct way to exit the control of Egypt, the control of Pharaoh and to come to the control of the Creator.
21. S. (56:52) I cannot understand how through unity and connection we will be able to invert Pharaoh’s vessels of reception into vessels of bestowal?
R. When we connect between us and want to unite we feel that we cannot, the force that stands against us and doesn’t let us connect that’s Pharaoh. When we somewhat start to connect and fall again that’s also Pharaoh, meaning, anything that is against connection is Pharaoh, and anything that sustains connection for us is the Creator. Other than those two forces we have nothing, in the middle there’s just our choice and our choice as we learn is the group.
Since, therefore, the Creator shattered one vessel of Adam HaRishon, and in our efforts to connect that back because in its connection of this vessel we come to a state where we are closer to the Creator and we can ask him to help us. These are actually the actions that we have shattered vessels, we have a complete vessel and in the middle is us who we need to try to connect to reveal the extent to which we are not capable. Just to understand, to discover just how much we are not capable to connect, and then we cry out to the Creator help us.
So who helps us? Pharaoh who resists connection and we who try to exit from the control of Pharaoh and then we cry out to the Creator, that’s raising of MAN, and then to the extent that we cry to as he help us and removes us from the control of Pharaoh and connects between us. To the extent that we start to become closer and connect to that extent we begin to start to discover between us the force of the Creator, the force of connection all the ways to the force of love,and in this force we feel the Upper reality which arrives from the connection of these shattered states, thoughts, desires that are broken, and this is how we advance towards the revelation of the spiritual reality. This is actually all our work.
22. S. (59:52) Sometimes we do not have, we do not want to connect, we cannot stand the friends and I feel the Creator abandoned me, and honor, envy, lust, is like in opposite, what can we do what can we ask the Creator?
R. Only for him to help us exit the exile. Where I have no understanding ,awareness of where I even am, exile can be complete darkness where I feel nothing in spirituality, it could be that I feel somewhat, some form of small illumination, and then I feel the extent and which I am not in spirituality and so on. Meaning we need as much as possible, more and more, to advance towards connection even though we do not know why, for what, sometimes we do not even know where we are, but we have corporeality, that is why the corporeal world exists and somewhat as we connect between us we are impressed by one another, the group exists in corporeality and that is why we have, to start, to begin with, our connection this compression this condensed feeling between us, to the extent in which we want for there to be a more powerful desire, more unified, more aimed towards one direction. That is how we will succeed
23. S. (01:01:52) Are there any differences between Og and Og King ogf Bashan?
R. Yes, we will learn about all of those things. It is the private forces of Pharaoh. Pharaoh is the desire to receive in order to receive in the general force of it. There are many particular discernment within it and they have many names, just like we once read that there are seven names for the evil inclination, so we will learn more of these things but it is not so important to us. When we get into the spiritual work in a practical manner then we will see there all of these details, all of these particular aspects. Right now it is not important to us who is Og, or who is Og the King of Bashan. Really not.
Reading Item #76 (01:03:08) “We therefore see for an important person…”
24. R. (01:04:56) Yes because the questions about Pharaoh are such that are hard for us to answer. He is right, what can you do? He is right. Therefore we need to rise to the next degree above reason because within reason Pharaoh is right, he is always right. He is standing with all of his opinion and his knowledge and all of his wisdom on the ground and therefore we with our intellect cannot deal with Pharaoh. Pharaoh is our logic but only under the condition that we go in faith above reason where there is the force of bestowal which is the Creator and he is above the force of reception above the force the created being then we will be able to convince the Creator to give us the force of bestowal and by that we will rise above and begin to feel our spiritual state.
Reading Item #77 (01:06:24) “We find in the Zohar…”
25. R. (01:07:21) We do not yet know what the force of faith above reason is. That is the force of the Creator and if it comes to a person, a person succeeds. But nevertheless we need to understand that we must yearn for that, the connection with the Creator which is called the connection of faith, this is what raises us to the spiritual degree above the corporeal degree that we are in now. These two forces, the force of Pharaoh which is within reason and the force of the Creator which is above reason, those two forces between the two of them we are and we need to truly be between this world and the next.
26. S. (01:08:30) If Pharaoh is right and he is describing my state in the present degree and he says that I do not have any importance of the Creator truly so as to annul myself as we read in the previous excerpt, then from where, nonetheless what is this above reason, if he is describing precisely my present situation where is this area so that we can…?
R. There is no such area. That is why it is called above reason, as in this field, in this area and the current state that you are in there is no spirituality and you cannot depict it.
S. So what is the work there? What does it mean above reason?
R. With the force of bestowal, the force of bestowal is revealed and in that force we do reveal.
S. Any time that we tried to go to the force of bestowal he hardens his heart even more.
R. So that you will rise even more.
S. But when is there an ascent?
R. When you manage to convince the Creator that you need the force of bestowal for you to have it in order to bestow.
S. So I need to try to persuade the Creator each time
R. Yes.
S. Where is this point and which I succeed and so he listens
R. That you want to disconnect from your desire and jump to a state in which you will be truly above it.
S. Meaning all the time until we rise to faith above reason I still have the part of me that does not want to connect.
R. Yes, of course.
27. S. (01:10:16) Why does it say here that Pharaoh was wiser than all of his Sorcerers? What does that mean?
R. It is because all of the forces that operate upon us are the forces that have no actuality as the Creator who arranged the will to receive arranged it in such a manner that the will to receive controls us and it appears to us as logical and correct until we emerge to the spiritual world we don’t understand to the extent in which we were foolish and disconnected from truth and from anything that is logical and true therefore before we ascend above Pharaoh we so-called exit Egypt we cannot depict ourselves until then with the truth is.
28. S. (01:51) How can we overcome the force that Pharaoh activates on us?
R. Only by us together asking the Creator to raise us above Pharaoh. We are in the degree of Pharaoh and we ask the Creator to raise us above, that is called above reason. Reason is Pharaoh. We are in spirituality they add to us the will to receive where once more in this state we will start to feel the desire to receive and start to fall again seemingly to Egypt and again we ask for the Creator to raise us above reason to new reason and that is how it is each and every time. Of course there is an end to this but this is work. Meaning that Pharaoh must grow each time so we will grow upon him and this is how we ascend and ascend and ascend.
29. S. (01:13:09) On the one hand we speak about walking on the middle line on the other hand that we have to run away from Pharaoh so when should we run away when should we try to connect to these two opposing forces?
R. We need to constantly run away. connecting two opposite forces we can do only in one manner where it all comes from the upper force and also Pharaoh is managed by the upper force but that is not for our work that is nature.
30. S. (01:13:44) How through Pharaoh do we discover the quality of the Creator?
R. This comes and learns about that. That’s what it is, a thing and its opposing force. Anything that we attain we attain the two poles of it, and then one comes and teaches us about the other.
31. S. (01:14:12) What enables us to disagree with the forces of Pharaoh or the other forces that harden themselves against Israel?
R. Not to agree because we are in a group and also in the group we are in separation and we feel this force of resistance between us the force of Pharaoh and we need to not agree with the separation and demand unity. This is how we raise ourselves above the corporeal state in the world that we are in to the spiritual world.
32. S. (01:14:54) How can we perform actions that resemble the Creator if our self benefit swallows everything?
R. It swallows everything for us to rise to an even higher degree and this is how we, all the time rise.
33. S. (01:15:17) What should I do in order to see the friends so great that I will follow them with my eyes closed and do everything that they do with great envy?
R. You have to work on that ,they have eyes but do not see it seems to me through my ego and if I wasn’t in my ego but rather I would see the world in a form of bestowal and I would see the whole world in the final correction. I am only in the force of reception, I’m the only, I am the only one in the force of reception and I’m corrupt and that is how we should depict ourselves.
34. S. (01:16:14) The strengthening of his heart against the Creator in Israel, why against Israel isn’t the same as against the Creator?
R. Because Israel is the executor, the one who advances the active part of creation and the Creator is above creation.
35. S. (01:16:42) You said that we’re constantly praying that he raises us above the Pharaoh, so do we always overcome and now we just do not feel it?
R. Yes, now too we’re rising if we’re praying and every time we are advancing and we see that according to external signs, understand a little bit more, in feeling a little bit more, but it is not yet attained.
S. What is lacking?
R. Faith above reason, the force of bestowal that will truly be above the force of reception a little bit and then we will see the spiritual world already.